We have experienced a media failure on an 8.0.5 db on NT4. This is an old instance that no one who is hear now knows about. Is there a way to log into server manager and start the instance for recovery? What permissions does the NT user have to have to connect / as sysdba? Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Ruth -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." --Benjamin Franklin