As someone who quotes the RTFM for more than just this business, it makes perfect sense for someone to at least do some research before asking a question that could be answered if they let their fingers do the walking. Yes, some of the Oracle documentation does have value, however, please remember it is a reference manual and NOT a user manual. For those of U that are old enough, remember the days of reading IBM Utility manuals? What about the PL/I and COBOL assembler manuals? When you RTFM'd, you new the product because you had to dig for the answer. Part of the problem with many of today's IT employees is that they want someone to spoon in all of the material they need. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Compuware Corporation Direct: (313) 227-4350 Toll Free: (800) 462-7740 ext. 74350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: Stephen.Karniotis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: www.compuware.com -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamadagni, Rajendra Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:05 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: 10G New Features Book My dog ate my homework. Raj ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------=20 Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com=20 All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.=20 select standard_disclaimer from company_requirements;=20 QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -----Original Message----- On 04/26/2004 07:09:17 PM, Mogens N?rgaard wrote: > In general, and to me, the RTFM and CTNOM (Check This Note On=20 > Metalink) are becoming increasingly rediculous (spelling?!?) to use=20 > against fellow citizens of the Oracle universe. Allow me to elaborate: Mogens, I beg to differ. The "RTFM" is invaluable tool for telling someone to do his/her/its homework. This is a phrase with long history, extremely useful for breaking the bozone layer and shouldn't be discarded just like that. I agree that the Oracle documentation is, in general, completely useless for learning the product, but there are other books which can be used for that purpose. There is no excuse for not doing one's homework. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------