[optimal] Re: Vegetable Dye
- From: sandor ferenczy <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:42:36 -0400
That has always been my stance. C20 H12 O5 was first synthesized in 1871,
and yes, it is carbon-based, but it is no more a "vegetable dye" than
petroleum is a "fruit juice"
-sandor
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:29 PM, jmc <jmceyephoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> vegetables are organic
>
> sodium fluorescein is carbon, sodium, hydrogen, and oxygen combined
> synthetically
>
> synthesize means to form a material by combining parts or elements
>
> carbon is a widely distributed element that forms organic compounds in
> combination with hydrogen, oxygen
>
> "we are carbon based life forms, Captain" - remember your Spock !
>
> organic means noting or pertaining to a class of chemical compounds that
> formerly comprised only those existing in or derived from plants or
> animals, but that now includes all other compounds of carbon., that is
> characteristic of, pertaining to, or derived from living organisms:
> organic remains found in rocks.
>
> The carbon in plants come from the carbon found in carbon dioxide (CO2).
> As plants undergo photosynthesis they draw in water through their roots and
> carbon dioxide from the air through specialized structures called stomates.
> So the inorganic carbon in carbon dioxide becomes organic carbon making up
> the oils, carbohydrates and proteins found in plants.
>
> carbon is the compressed dinosaurs and the vegetation they ate 60 million
> years ago, compressed over time by the overlying dust from space that
> continues to bombard earth daily ( that where the dust comes from even when
> we clean so well)
>
> so fluorescein is made from carbon. which, technically, is vegetables, just
> very old ones no one can eat easily.
>
> it is synthetic.... it is organic... it is vegetable
>
>
> but it ain't rutabagas !
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> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Sarah Moyer <smoyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> July is here and so are the new residents! During a lecture/discussion
>> about fluorescein sodium yesterday, we discussed how fluorescein sodium is a
>> synthetic dye and NOT a vegetable dye. One of them had already read/heard
>> it was a vegetable dye. He asked if there were ever ingredients in the dye
>> that were vegetable based and if that is why this rumor exists. Does
>> anybody know why some people refer to it as a vegetable dye?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Sarah Moyer
>> University of North Carolina
>>
>
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