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Craig
On Sep 28, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Manfredi, Albert E
<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
http://petedeutschman.com/2015/01/27/linear-tv-dips-below-half-of-us-viewers/
We debunked this one quite some time back.
"We" debunked nothing at all. To debunk something, you have to provide
counter-proof, or you have to demonstrate that the procedure was flawed. You
don't "debunk" just by uttering some banality, Craig. We have other sources
that give the same information, or very close to it.
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/247581/time-shifted-tv-is-the-default.html
Dittos with this one. What are "time shifting viewers?"
Gee, Craig is baffled by that one too. Quoting, "The average viewer says that
47% of the TV shows they watch are live and 53% are time-shifted." And again
toward the bottom: "53% of all viewing among consumers 16-74 is time shifted,
vs. 47% live."
Craig has a hard time deciphering these words. Any ambiguity in any of these
quotes, Craig? Try these, which report the same things:
http://www.ericsson.com/res/docs/2015/consumerlab/ericsson-consumerlab-tv-media-2015.pdf
http://www.digitaltveurope.net/356912/streaming-overtakes-live-viewing-in-the-us/
HBO Now is no different than HBO Go.
Nonsense. HBO Now requires no MVPD subscription.
Sling TV is a skinny virtual MVPD bundle experiment.
Sling TV is a $20 SVOD site that has content which previously was considered
to be "the crown jewel" of MVPDs. This is just another proof that your "will
never happen" happens indeed. In fact, its introduction could not have been
timed better!
But that's not in the article we were discussing,
Don’t be absurd. When you quoted 4 hours and 31 minutes of daily TV viewing,
as if it were fact, I wasn't all befuddled by the number, and yet it too came
from another source than the one we were discussing. I knew exactly what
source it came from, so I didn't have to ponderously act amazed and
bewildered. This is what you do all the time, because you seem unable to
retain facts. So everything has to be belabored to death.
But this is still live linear Bert. The Internet is not involved.
No, Craig. Neither use of PVRs, nor in-system DVRs, can be considered
"consuming TV live," or linear. When you like to pretend that TV is consumed
as it was in 1950, you cannot lie like this. Furthermore, once people become
accustomed and prefer time shifting, they quickly adopt easier and better
ways of doing this. That's WHY the use of PVRs is flat at best, while online
streaming is increasing.
Here we go again. What people view on mobile devices may include
some video clips.
This streaming includes any number of non-strictly-TV material. Netflix
movies, or Amazon, for example. Anything that people watch on their devices,
that isn't strictly from TV sources. Only in your imagination is this just
clips. And furthermore, it shows just how much streaming the Internet is
carrying already, to disprove your other repeating and unsubstantiated mantra
about "years and years."
Th national average is now over five hours. Of TV entertainment
per day, of which 4:31 is live linear...
Yet another example of your going back to square 1. All the sources on top
tell us that truly live consumption of TV fell below 50%, soon to be 2 years
ago, Craig. Perhaps you are afraid to be perceived as a dinosaur? I don’t
know what it is that creates this mental block in you, Craig.
Bert
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