Its about having the tools to please your customers. If the tools you are restricted to using don't work well what do you do? Drag your feet, concentrate on other more promising things like used car sales, limit production, don't advertise, don't train sales people, put out misleading or false information, hide receivers on the bottom shelf. In may case in 2002 when I visited Harvey's, an upscale electronics dealer, and I pressed the issue of wanting an OTA receiver the salesman introduced me to the store manager who informed me I would have to sign that I understood that this receiver probably would not work and could not be returned. Even then they didn't have it in stock. A business plan that everyone can get excited about. Even what I think is a very weak plan, USDTV, get a lot of interest and generated a lot of excitement when you add news of the 5th gen receiver to the story. Few customers care about business plans, I agree. Did I suggest they did somewhere? The question is can you make a business that relies on consumers using 8-VSB receivers pre 5th generation? I don't think so and I don't think anyone in the food chain has thought so till recently with the advent of the 5th gen tech. You can't please customers and make a profit with 8-VSB so far that seems to be the consensus. Bob Miller John Willkie wrote: >I'm having trouble parsing your thoughts. Like "business plans that >broadcasters, manufacturers and retailers get excited about" > >Gee, I always thought it was about pleasing consumers, not intermediaries. >Few consumers care about business plans. > >John Willkie >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:20 AM >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Zenith/LG NOT announcing new STB's based upon 5'th >gen chip > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.