Tom Wrote: > Fool me once ... Yes, it's unfortunate but I can't disagree. We can't know who manufactured the device and Bob's disclaimer about the uncertainty of product sounds very familiar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Zenith 5th get TV reports > Fool me once ... > > I'll still wait until the STB's are on sale and not another > special Zenith 5th gen demo unit that may not any more marketable > than the last one. > > It is nice to hear from 3rd parties that at least the TV's seem to > work. But be aware the person making the post on AVS also > sometimes sings the praises of the Zenith 4th gen STB's. > > - Tom > > > Dale Kelly wrote: >> I wrote: >> >>>It seems that the price of good reception is a new DTV set. >> >> >> Bob reported: >> >>>The above are all rock solid similar to the first 5th gen receiver. >>>Starting to feel optimistic again. >> >> >> Or, perhaps a Bob Miller "special"! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:55 PM >> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Zenith 5th get TV reports >> >> >> >>>Bert wrote: >>> >>>>From which description I would guesstimate that this >>>>is FINALLY performance similar to that witnessed by >>>>Mark Schubin and Bob Miller. Now, if it would also come >>>>in the form of an STB, we could more quickly (read >>>>cheaply) make the transition. >>> >>>It seems that the price of good reception is a new DTV set. >>>I assume this will create significant negative buzz from the >>>AVS early adopters, I know that it bugs the heck out of me. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: "OpenDTV (E-mail)" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:44 PM >>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Zenith 5th get TV reports >>> >>> >>> >>>>Tom Barry wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>According to this post >>>>> >>>>>= >>>> >>>>http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3D5571303#post557130= >>>>3 >>>> >>>>>at AVS the Zenith 5th gen TV's are shipping and have >>>>>better reception than the LG 4200A STB's, previously >>>>>considered pretty good. >>>> >>>>Robert, the TiVo dealer, says in his post that he got >>>>21 channels, all rock solid, from a ground floor store, >>>>with Silver Sensor, surrounded by 6-floor buildings. >>>>Where no other ATSC receiver could pick up a single >>>>station. >>>> >>>>From which description I would guesstimate that this >>>>is FINALLY performance similar to that witnessed by >>>>Mark Schubin and Bob Miller. Now, if it would also come >>>>in the form of an STB, we could more quickly (read >>>>cheaply) make the transition. >>>> >>>>Good to see that as of now, at least, LG is *not* >>>>scrimping on the built-in ATSC receiver, as so many had >>>>predicted would happen. So at very least, this gives >>>>other OEMs a target to match or beat. (Does anyone want >>>>to be known as the brand with the crappy ATSC tuner?) >>>> >>>>Don't know the prices. One of the sets is a 30" >>>>direct view CRT. Sounds like should be reasonably >>>>priced? Couldn't find it at Best Buy or Circuit City. >>>> >>>>This is exciting news. Let's see if they suddenly get >>>>pulled off the market for some mysterious reason. >>>> >>>>Bert >>>> >>>> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>>> >>>>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>>>FreeLists.org >>>> >>>>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>>>unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>> >>>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>>FreeLists.org >>> >>>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>>unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >> FreeLists.org >> >> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >> unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.