Craig Birkmaier wrote: > Why is it the responsibility of receiver manufacturers > to provide a product that consumers have shown no > interest in? Just because consumers are forced to buy or rent the interface box provided by a TV service provider does not mean that they do this happily. The fact that the majority of cable customers still stick with the analog tier cable, specifically to be able to avoid the STB, should show you what's really going on here. The desire for zillions of channels, or for premium channels, makes it worth the nonsense of dealing with unnecessary interface boxes. It's a price some people may be willing to pay. It doesn't mean they want to go this way as opposed to a better way, or that this is good for the consumer. With recording devices, the integral tuner is practically mandatory. The question you should be asking is whether this recrding device, with integral tuner, should be available on regular store shelves, or whether specific non-standard models should be dictated by each service provider. Next thing you know, ISPs will be mandating their own protocol stack, and we'll be told we should all be grateful. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.