[opendtv] Re: Whiners and attention seekers
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:35:02 -0800
I COMPLETELY agree with Dermot on this.
My term is "don't feed the bears."
John Willkie
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From: "dmenolan" <dmenolan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:49 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Whiners and attention seekers
> I think it is Bert who has been the whiner and attention seeker on this l=
> ist (nothing better to do then this glorious spring?) and the frequent te=
> dious tirades against Craig and others are unsupported by facts. Now that=
> we know he hasn't even got an ATSC receiver. Please! But various people =
> fall into the trap of taking Bert seriously and arguing with him: why bot=
> her?. I do not have that problem and am not politically correct. In Europ=
> e we have a word for people like Bert whi argue for the sake of argument,=
> don't contribute to anything, and don't have either experience or facts =
> behind them. Then we are less PC over here, but my old dad had a very goo=
> d word for it. I leave it out for sensibility reasons
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Dermot Nolan
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> Date: 23/03/105 01:29 PM
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> RE: [opendtv] Re: Latest 5th Gen
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> Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
> > On the other hand, there's nothing quite as
> > aggravating as petulant, whiny children. We aren't
> > getting DVB-T, okay? Get over it.
>
> This often seems to be the response when someone criticizes ATSC. But =
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> ATSC continues be be vulnerable to criticism because the repeated =
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> promises for improvement continue to be broken.
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> It is of course somewhat offensive to be called a whiny child. And is =
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> possibly somewhat stuffy to make such authoritative statements about an =
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> uncertain future. Not a good debating technique but maybe at least a =
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> way to bring uncomfortable topics to an embarrassed silence.
>
> At least you didn't print in all caps. ;-)
>
> - Tom
> > John Shutt wrote:
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> > =
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> >>But they're not. Why not? Because they know how
> >>difficult (read: expensive) it is to build an ATSC
> >>box that actually is plug and play.
> > =
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> > =
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> > I thought LG claimed $50 by 2006, with date certain.
> > Your reason can't be right.
> > =
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> > I speculate instead that they simply want to minimize
> > risk by having Congress set a date certain for analog
> > shutoff. And that the same would have happened with
> > DVB-T boxes if they had first been introduced in one
> > of the Euro countries where OTA TV languishes.
> > =
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> > Either that, or a conspiracy of pay-TV providers got
> > to them.
> > =
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> > =
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> >>It's disgusting that it comes down to someone like
> >>Bert arguing for ATSC when he hasn't even tried one
> >>yet.
> > =
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> > =
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> > On the other hand, there's nothing quite as
> > aggravating as petulant, whiny children. We aren't
> > getting DVB-T, okay? Get over it.
> > =
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> > Bert
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