[opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince

  • From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:08:40 -0800

What is your widely known know source?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Willkie
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:37 PM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
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>
> Actually, the arctic ice pack is expanding, and is at a record size these
> days.  Can't say the same for the Antarctic ice pack.
>
> I do believe this is a widely-known fact, outside of the church of Al Gore
> and James Hansen.
>
> Come to think of it, how is the Gore electric bill doing?  Do they still
> spend more to heat their pool than the rest of us do to light and
> power our
> homes?
>
> John Willkie
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
> nombre de Dale Kelly
> Enviado el: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:48 AM
> Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Asunto: [opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
>
> Craig wrote:
> > Can ANYONE cite even one example of harm that has occurred from the
> > recent warming over the past decade?
>
> For a start, how about the melting of the arctic ice pack and the
> increasingly warming oceans which resulted in the loss of viable wildlife
> habitat and a reduced population of many species such as Salmon, Polar
> Bears, Orca Whales, Oyster, Coral Reefs. etc, etc.
>
> For what it's worth I've attached two URLs that addresses the
> ocean warming
> issue. However, Craig being an avid "Denier", I await his next
> round of "new
> Science" and it's resulting obfuscation.
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080618143301.htm
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070308220426.htm
>
> > Articles that wring hands about the harm caused by global
> > >warming do not by themselves show that we cause it or how we can fix
> > >it.
>
> Generally you first identify a problem and then devise a fix; this seldom
> happens simultaneously.
>
> Dale
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier
> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:22 AM
> > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
> >
> >
> > At 7:04 PM -0500 11/8/08, Albert Manfredi wrote:
> > >Saturday evening rambling.
> > >
> > >...
> > >
> > >
> > >The potential for harm from WSDs is even more easily demonstrated.
> >
> > As is the potential for valuable new service that can share the
> spectrum.
> >
> > We have to start somewhere. It is unconscionable to keep this
> > spectrum tied up protecting a service that is used only by a small
> > fraction of the population.
> >
> > >Similarly, human involvement in global warming might very well be
> > >true. Possibly, the stats show that somehow somewhere, we are
> > >exacerbating it. But obsessing over CO2, when we contribute such a
> > >small fraction of that gas compared with the rest of nature? Show me
> > >what we are doing that causes harm, then, so we have a hope of
> > >fixing it. Articles that wring hands about the harm caused by global
> > >warming do not by themselves show that we cause it or how we can fix
> > >it.
> >
> > Good points.
> >
> > Can ANYONE cite even one example of harm that has occurred from the
> > recent warming over the past decade?
> >
> > Sorry, but increased levels of CO2 is not harmful...just more
> > nutrients for plants.
> >
> > Regards
> > Crag
> >
> >
> >
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