[opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
- From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:04:46 -0800
Well, sure if you want to play reduction ad absurdum; but I tend to not play
that game.
Truth be said, there is no reason to do ANYTHING.
"Study" all you want, but methinks you're just playing badly with words.
John Willkie
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De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
nombre de Tom Barry
Enviado el: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:43 AM
Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: [opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
Nuclear winter is also a quick and efficient way to cool the planet if
we have to. But I think it is good to study the alternatives first. ;-)
- Tom
John Willkie wrote:
> Then, it will be interesting to see if there are any "positive" effects of
> the current economic downturn, as pertains to the environment. I'm
willing
> to bet that it's unmeasurable.
>
> If we want to cool the planet, all we need to do is to permit industrial
> plants to emit sulphur dioxide, like they once did. That cuts down on
solar
> heat transfer, and I suspect the almost elimination of this pollutant over
> the last 30 or so years has permitted more efficient binding between sun
and
> sea.
>
> Of course, none of the "enviros" will even consider that. We could strike
> up a few dust storms in the desert, as well.
>
> I'm not saying that we should; I think it's a good idea to minimize the
> footprint that individual humans leave on the planet.
>
> John Willkie
>
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> De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En
> nombre de Dale Kelly
> Enviado el: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:02 PM
> Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Asunto: [opendtv] Re: What does it take to convince
>
>> By the way, doesn't the climate change all the time?
>
> Yes indeed, see the research from Easterbrook posted by Craig. He makes
the
> case that climate change is predictably cyclic in nature. Add to that the
> random events such as major volcanic activity or meteor strikes and the
> climate can vary widely and quickly.
>
>> Have humans always been in control of this? More likely,
>> they have never had much if any of an impact.
>
> I can't disagree with you or prove otherwise but I do suggest that the
human
> dynamic has changed sufficiently over the past 60 years or so that the
> potential for climate change based upon our activity has become an issue.
> After all, the world's population has increased dramatically during that
> period as has our industrial activities. I don't know that this has
impacted
> the climate but it certainly should not be dismissed given that warming
has
> increased dramatically over the past 50 years.
>
> Dale
>
>
>
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