Richard C. Ramsden wrote: > You mis-read the article, Tom. Vizio is suing Funai to stop them from > importing TVs. You'll be able to buy a Vizio next year. > But I think it goes back a bit further than that, with Vizio protesting Funai's patents. See: <http://www.uslaw.com/library/Corporate_&_Securities_Law/Vizio_Files_Monopolization_Suit_Funai.php?item=380862> ---quote (feb 15)----- VIZIO, Inc., America’s HDTV Company, announced today that it has filed an antitrust and unfair competition lawsuit in the United States District Court, Central District of California, against Funai Electronics Co., Ltd., a Japanese distributor of digital televisions and related components. In the suit, VIZIO, a U.S. company based in Irvine, California, alleges that its competitor, Funai, acting alone and in concert with others, unlawfully restrained trade and monopolized the market for the licensing of technology used to interpret and retrieve information from a digital television broadcast signal, as well as the market for digital television sets and receivers. In the federal complaint, VIZIO alleges that Funai unlawfully acquired the rights to U.S. patent No. 6,115,074 (the “‘074 patent”), which is subject to a standards setting organization overseeing digital television manufacturers, and has since unlawfully and unfairly discriminated against VIZIO in the licensing and enforcement of the ‘074 patent, to the detriment of trade and commerce. VIZIO’s suit alleges that, in so doing, Funai has violated the federal Sherman Antitrust Act, the Clayton Act, and numerous provisions of California’s unfair competition and antitrust laws. ---/quote---- And while the USPTO has invalidate a couple of the Funai patents it looks like the U.S. International Trade Commission has still ruled to block Vizio imports if nothing changes soon. See: <http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/20001/stop-the-funai-business-vizio-sues-over-patent-infringement> ---quote--- ... The move is just the latest broadside in the patent battle between the two companies: the United States Patent and Trademark Office issued a final rejection Funai patents (including the controversial 6,115,074 <http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,115,074.PN.&OS=PN/6,115,074&RS=PN/6,115,074>), which is basically the final step towards it being declared invalid. But then the U.S. International Trade Commission ruled in /favor/ of Funai, and issued an order blocking Vizio from importing HDTVs into the United States, subject to presidential review. ... ---/quote--- So I don't think I mis-read it. Patents may block my favorite TV deals from being available in the future. Apologies in advance if all these various links and quotes don't make it. - Tom > The 24 and change to 40 USD per set is the annoying bit, but royalties > are a fact of life. But, when they are part of a mandated standard > they should be regulated. And, ALL licensors should be open. If they > don't want their relationship open to the public, then they shouldn't > get paid for a public standard. > > Tom Barry wrote: >> Found on SlashDot, but at >> <http://www.robglidden.com/2009/06/us-dtv-royalties-24-to-40-dollars/> >> >> ----------- >> Filings last week in the CUT FATT proceeding at the US FCC on patent >> overcharging in the US digital TV transition claim that royalty demands >> for US ATSC-standard television receivers range from $24.10 to $40.10, >> depending on the size of the TV receiver. ... >> ----------- >> >> Have to go to the link for the scary chart. >> >> - Tom >> >> PS - I have satisfactorily purchased and enjoyed 2 Vizio HDTV's now, >> great bang for the buck. It will be interesting and maybe sad to see if >> they will soon be kept out of this country because of patent >> lawsuits. >> <http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/20001/stop-the-funai-business-vizio-sues-over-patent-infringement> >> >> I wonder if that will also happen with Tivo clones. >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >> - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings >> at FreeLists.org >> - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >> word unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.