[opendtv] Re: To kill net neutrality rules, FCC says broadband isn't "telecommunications"
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 02:40:48 +0000
Monty Solomon posted:
To kill net neutrality rules, FCC says broadband isn't "telecommunications"
This repeats the same arguments that the FCC is requesting comments on, and it
shows a rather blatant and unacceptable lack of understanding of how the
Internet works. Of course, if you start with some nonsensical premise, you can
manufacture any conclusion you were intending to manufacture. But when you're
the FCC, you are entrusted by The People to understand what it is you are
"Pai's claim that broadband isn't telecommunications might not make sense to
consumers, who generally use their Internet connections to access websites and
online services offered by companies other than their ISPs, as a TechCrunch
article recently argued."
Of course it doesn't make sense to consumers, because it's simply false. People
use their ISPs for precisely that kind of neutral access to web sites or to
other Internet users. It is a fabrication by Chairman Pai that ISP service is
anything other than what people know it to be.
"Landline and mobile voice service are both considered telecommunications by
the FCC. But "Internet service providers do not appear to offer
'telecommunications,'" because "broadband Internet users do not typically
specify the 'points' between and among which information is sent online," Pai's
Which is a load of crap, sorry for my French. The two most common methods for
reaching web sites are either directly enter the name of the site, which the
"domain name system" (DNS) translates int an actuall address (comparable to a
phone number), or you use a search engine. When using the latter method, the
search engine returns multiple choices of site names, which in turn the DNS
will map to a numerical address when the user chooses one.
A third possibility is to enter the actual numerical address in the browser,
but I'm pretty positive that's seldom done.
"Even IP addresses may not specify where information is transmitted to or from
because caching servers store and serve popular information to reduce network
The DNS the user reaches will decide. The argument continues to be absurd,
especially from the FCC. Has the FCC never used teleconferencing? Does the use
of teleconferencing from a telephone make it any less of a telecom service? No,
it does not. And yet, the users dial a number of what is functionally the same
as these mirrored servers.
Point being, there is NO EXCUSE for the FCC to be misrepresenting the Internet
this way. It's unconscionable.
End of thread.
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