[opendtv] Re: The New Laws of Television
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:31:13 -0700
the ultimate way to stop piracy is to only create porn. That is the end
game of your query. It worked after the French revolution -- when
copyrights were not being granted -- but even the French saw the error of
(those) ways.
Believe me, content will find a way to protect their content, and I suspect
that you should take up a musical instrument to entertain yourself and
others.
John Willkie
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From: "Silvio Macedo" <s.macedo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:18 AM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: The New Laws of Television
>
> If I may, I believe that with: 1) video in digital form using good and
> free codecs, 2) the increase of bw and 3) availability of completely
> distributed p2p architectures , there will be nothing anybody can do
> to actually stop piracy.
>
> Also, I believe (HOPE!) when you discuss the possibility of embracing
> piracy (Tom/Bert at least), what you really mean is that there could
> be ways of doing the same thing legally.=20
>
> Piracy itself should never be tolerated. If someone prefers to have
> its content distributed over BT rather than protect it and sell it in
> another way, this is not piracy - it's just another form of
> distribution - call it hyperdistribution, if you will - but not
> piracy.
>
> Finally, going back to the initial discussions on p2p and internet TV,
> what I believe to be fundamental is to find equally simple 1-2-3-click
> front-ends to get content in a legally and commercially viable way -
> something like what iTunes did for napster.
>
> That's the challenge. If there are legal p2p networks or not, dvds
> will continue to be ripped, tv tuners will continue to dump torrents
> directly to the web to cross the Atlantic - and that will happen
> independently of legal p2p networks. The pressure is just too much. In
> fact, the only thing that creating legal p2p networks may do, is to
> decrease piracy, by reducing the barrier between 1-2-3-click and
> dressing/going out/driving to get a dvd.=20
>
> Then it will be (again) more a matter of moral/ethics than
> easier/faster/convenience. Currently, it's easier/faster/more
> convenient to go underground. It shouldn't be like that...
>
> Silvio
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert
> E
> > Sent: 25 May 2005 16:06
> > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: The New Laws of Television
> >=20
> >=20
> > Tom Barry wrote:
> >=20
> > > > The main thrust of his thesis was that piracy
> > > > had to be *welcomed*. In your thinking above,
> > > > instead, piracy would continue to be dreaded.
> > >
> > > And which one do you think is more likely. ;-)
> >=20
> > Granted. I also didn't agree with his premise. It
> > takes a huge leap of faith to make your business
> > model dependent on fanatics buying the DVD boxed
> > sets just because "that's the thing to do."
> >=20
> > > But Craig was basically talking about ways that a
> > > media product could be differentiated into
> > > different levels of service based upon both video
> > > quality and ad density. Like regular TV it would
> > > be possible to give away one tier of service and
> > > yet have a premium model where there are fewer (or
> > > no) ads, better picture, and less censorship.
> > > People would still pay for the premium service but
> > > for the free service it might be acceptable to
> > > embrace or at least tolerate "piracy" in order to
> > > gain the larger audience.
> >=20
> > There are two problems with this:
> >=20
> > 1. It's the same point Craig has made many many
> > times, and it does not respond or relate in any way
> > to the article's ideas.
> >=20
> > 2. Once you have created a "premium" program stream,
> > *that's* the one the pirates will target. Not the
> > dumbed down version. So you end up being just as
> > vulnerable to piracy, or maybe even more so, than
> > producers and networks are today.
> >=20
> > As things are today, the networks expect to make
> > money from the original ads, from some portion of the
> > monthly fees collected by umbillical services that
> > carry the content, from syndication, *and* from the
> > boxed sets. As opposed to depending only on the last
> > item as their source of revenue.
> >=20
> > Perhaps, if the producer didn't need to depend on
> > networks to get his product out there, he could
> > make the same income by just selling the DVDs after
> > free Internet distribution/pirating? That would be
> > the relevant point to wonder about.
> >=20
> > Bert
> >=20
> > =20
> > =20
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