Sorry for those in text mode: you'll probably need html to make much sense of this. System_time GPS Time Value UTC Time Value January 3, 2003 00:03:02 GPS March 2, 2009 01:45:20 UTC 0xEF2906D2 Preamble: I'll credit you that the system time table's CRC-32 is correct, the GPS_UTC_offset is correct, the daylight savings time value is correct and the MPEG-2 and ATSC table header is correct. Just fill out the following bytes, and include all your math. Step 1: Using just the GPS time value in the table above, create the system_time bytes for a system time table. (You might want to give up when you realize that it can't be done with the information provided.) Seep 2. Using just the UTC time value in the table above, create the appropriate byte values to represent that time below. (This one is quite doable.) Remember to include all of your math. Step 3. Using just the system_time value in the table above, create the appropriate byte values to represent that time span value in the table below. (This one just requires a bit of parsing and copying.) Lesson: the trick is getting the right time value: either UTC, or another time value plus an integer that corrects that time value to its UTC equivalent. UTC requires only UTC; GPS or other time bases require the time and a time offset. Here's another help: At Jan 6, 1980 00:00:00 UTC, GPS displays said Jan 6, 1980 00:00:07. STT system_time value bytes Iteration Index 0 (system_time_msb) System_time_lsb GPS_time value UTC time value System_time Step 4. Now, convert all the various values into their appropriate UTC and GPS values. For this purpose only, you may assume that the GPS_UTC_offset is equal to 0. Include all your math, and compare the results to the values you started with. You have either achieved mathematical proof, or not. System_time Time Value From GPS From UTC From system_time Step 5. Prove to me that the FCC permits use of the procedure in step 1 to put the time value into system time tables, win $100. This was Bert's initial assertion. Step 6. Prove to me that the FCC REQUIRES the use of the procedure in step 1 to put the time value into system time tables, win another $100. This was John Shutt's 'correction' to Bert's initial assertion. All submissions become the sole property of John Willkie. It's just that 'easy.' to WIN! You may already be a winner! Contest only open to Bert and John Shutt, unless there are others who think they have a deeper understanding of this that do I. John Willkie