Mr. Wilkie, The things of which you write are stratospheric=20 compared to the daily mundane technical junk I deal with. I spend my time attempting to make sense of MPEG type 5=20 private data and finding ways to generate it, and other related mysteries.=20 I have no connection with and little real interest in the political and high ended business musings of giant communications companies except when they compass my ability to watch a tv show or play with=20 a 'new' technology.=20 I wish that I could claim, like Mark Schubin, that I am bound by strict non-disclosure agreements which prevent me from answering and replying to your questions and assertions, but in reality, I simply am not in that league. I sincerely hope you understand. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Willkie Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:42 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Ted Turner on Media Consolidation Really? I'm not so sure that your employment does not color your = perception of the problem. When, for just ONE example, was the LAST time that Comcast acquired the rights to carry a programming channel that wasn't offered by one of the seven sisters and for which Comcast didn't try to acquire a stake in the program provider? I don't follow cable very closely (largely, it's unnecessary), but I'd venture that the last time that occurred at = Comcast was in the 1970's -- perhaps as late as 1983 or so. Do you think that stance helps or hurts media consolidation? And, then there's the practice of cable franchising after the = mid-1970's, with "rent-a-minority" and "rent-a-citizen". Comcast was not one of the biggest players in these shell games (letting a local citizens of color = or influence, preferably both, have a stake -- or payoff -- in a potential system as a way of easing the approval through franchising authorities), = but largely that was because Comcast was outbid in franchising bids. Not to forget that cable by it's very essence -- one large company controlling most or all of the cable households in a zone, region or = city -- is media consolidation. If there was no cable, there would be more TV stations. While the = limits on TV ownership have increased in recent decades, the economic impact of a medium size cable system is larger than the economic impact of a single television station. And, there has never been a limit on the size of a single cable system, other than those imposed by the franchising authorities. More TV stations mean more points of views: limiting TV stations (with ownership caps) limits points of views. And, as we all know, cable EXCLUSIVELY provides a menu of programming from TV stations and from CONSOLIDATED MEDIA GIANTS. I've told you on-list and off-list that my problem with cable is the gatekeeper function. You have trouble perceiving media consolidation. Having been on the = other side of the table, I have a different point of view. Don't throw me slow-pitch insults; I was always good at hitting long = balls. Who I work for -- usually myself -- has never had any effect on my = ability to discern right from wrong. Sometimes, I pull punches when my economic interests are at stake; but I tend to clearly know what I am doing. John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cliff Benham Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:47 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Ted Turner on Media Consolidation Fortunately, who I work for has no effect on my ability and right=3D20 to express my beliefs and say what I feel is proper and correct. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Willkie Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:26 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Ted Turner on Media Consolidation Cliff, have you forgotten who you work for? Or, are you against media consolidation only after the Disney thing fell through? :-) John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cliff Benham Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:59 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Ted Turner on Media Consolidation http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0407.turner.html =3D20 =3D20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at = =3D FreeLists.org=3D20 - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word = =3D unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at = FreeLists.org=20 - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word = unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.