Craig Birkmaier wrote: > CBS may well have decided, but not in the context of the All Access > service. My educated guess is that their affiliation agreements > require this. My "educated guess" doubts this. My guess is instead that CBS is finding a new Internet role for local broadcasters, along the lines of what I had proposed COULD happen. >> Still, would it not have seemed inane if subscribing to CBS All >> Access required you to have verifiable OTA reception of the CBS >> signal at home? That's what TVE does, essentially. > > TVE has nothing to do with this. I'm drawing a parallel, between an obviously absurd rule for verified OTA reception to be permitted use of CBS All Access, and equally absurd requirements to have access to TVE content. A reduxio ad absurdum, Craig. > TVE authentication is not geographically based; Of course it is. If you cannot subscribe to Comcast, Craig, it is only because of geography. If you're an apartment dweller with windows facing in the wrong directions, or a homeowner with similar blocked LOS to satellites, you don't have access to DBS. And all MVPD subscriber do not have access to all the same streaming rights. It depends on whatever negotiations between MVPD and the content owner, and it also depends on details of MVPD tiers and bundles. http://theplatform.com/solutions/complete-tv-everywhere-solution/ "In addition, TV Service Providers often have different channel lineups and subscription packages, which means that different content offerings may be available to different customers at different times." So this means that your access to this online stream is dictated by artificial, anachronistic constraints, having nothing to do with the Internet medium. > Likewise, Dish Sling is not geo limited, No likewise about it. Sling TV is just like Netflix. Anyone with broadband can apply. Yes, when/as/if they start carrying the local broadcast stations, we MIGHT see some complications occurring. I'm not sure why you go on about reception test for DBS. Most of what you explain is irrelevant to this issue. If you cannot get DBS at home, you cannot use TVE from that DBS provider. I said this specifically because you were attempting to argue that anyone can have a DBS MVPD subscription. Not everyone has access to DBS, Craig, and this has nothing to do with the additional issue of DBS carrying your local OTA broadcast stations. > Unfortunately, we all wear U.S. blinders. We moved to wide > screen and HD first and are further along with the transition than > many other areas of the world. Lucky I get that MHz Networks station, with broadcasts from a bunch of different countries. The majority have gone 16:9, and now MHz Networks transmits all of the 12 subchannels in 16:9 (even if a couple of the programs are pillarboxed). The Euro, Japanese, Korean, Russian, and Chinese programs are in 16:9. But more than that, most of the other SD subchannels have gone 16:9 too. So when you watch an old widescreen movie, for example, or a not-so-old show like Ghost Whisperer in syndication, even if transmitted in SD in the subchannel, they are now 16:9. Of course this was bound to happen. I'm sure I also indicated this to you, multiple years ago, and I'm equally sure you disagreed. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.