[opendtv] Re: TV Technology: Getting The Word Out To The Viewers
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 02:20:29 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
But this has NOTHING to do with ATSC 3.0.
If broadcasters want to keep OTA TV a best-kept secret, then even to you,
Craig, it should be OBVIOUS that they would not want to spread the word about
ATSC 3.0 either. The author of the article seemed to not understand that the
lack of advertising is clearly deliberate, has been this way for years, and was
totally evident back in the 1998-2009 time frame. And it's not just the
broadcasters, as you seem to think. It's also the retail outlets and the CE
vendors. All on the take. For some reason, you seemed to not understand what
the article was about. For some reason, you thought I was the one who was
surprised that OTA TV was still being kept as a secret.
You just finished saying Michael Powell "did not mandate a thing."
Which is it Craig? Was there an FCC tuner mandate or not?
Read what you wrote the first time again Bert.
I QUOTED what you wrote, Craig. You felt obliged to disagree, stating that
Powell "did not mandate a thing," which was rather astounding. And then, you
may possibly have gotten a glimmer of a recollection about some "tuner
mandate," on further reflection, but you didn't bother to go back and correct
your previous mistake.
Perhaps you didn't even know that the "tuner mandate" was issued by the FCC?
Hard to say. Fact remains, you should have gone back and corrected your error.
That you did not correct your error says to me that you forgot where that
"tuner mandate" came from.
The FCC did not mandate the recovery of these channels,
You're only heaping on more mistakes, Craig, with your obstinate arguing. (And
making a bigger fool of yourself, all the way down your post.) The rationale
for the DTV transition was to recover those channels, and the FCC is the agency
that made it happen.
"Following the analog switch-off, the FCC reallocated channels 52 through 69
(the 700 MHz band) for other communications traffic, completing the
reallocation of broadcast channels 52-69 that began in the late 1990s. These
channels were auctioned off ..."
That was the reason for needing to end the transition, Craig. And everyone,
except you, knew this. So here I am, belaboring this too. And it was the
Michael Powell FCC that cleverly figured out how this end could be
orchestrated. Were it not for them, the transition could have dragged on
There is no language in the 1996 Telecommunication Act setting an end
date for the DTV transition.
And more mistakes from Craig, in his irrepressible urge to persist with obtuse
arguments. I told you, Craig, that the FCC had to use that 85% rule, for
households to have switched over to digital, before the transition could end,
and analog could be shut off. And you persist in your idiotic arguing.
"Current law calls for broadcasters to return the spectrum once 85 percent of
U.S. households receive digital signals, or the year 2006, whichever comes
later." And then it says:
"About 15 percent of U.S. households don't pay for cable or satellite TV and
receive only broadcast channels over the air. Their TV sets would become
obsolete under Powell's plan. Powell would let networks require cable and
satellite TV services to convert digital signals into analog. With this
conversion, subscribers who want to keep using their current analog TV sets
would be able to see analog-quality pictures."
So you are now citing a news article to support your claim...
Yes, it came up first in my search engine. Big deal. I'm quoting an article
that explains the 85% rule was a law, which like so much else, you forgot, just
so you can argue. So here's something directly from the FCC, Docket 03-15:
"The Communications Act states that licenses for analog television service
expire on December 31, 2006. The FCC is required to reclaim this spectrum from
broadcasters unless one of three conditions is met. The NPRM asks how the FCC
should interpret the extension criteria. Specifically, the NPRM seeks comment
on when stations should file an extension request with the FCC, how the FCC
should define a "television market" for purposes of this provision, how it
should interpret the requirement that digital-to-analog converter technology be
"generally available" in a television market, and how it should interpret the
test to determine if at least 85 percent of viewers have access to digital
broadcast signals either over-the-air or through a subscription service (cable,
Evidently, Craig, you Are the only person who didn't know about this 85% rule.
I won't waste any more time in doing your legwork for you. It's your
responsibility to educate yourself.
Michael Powell had nothing to do with ending the DTV transition.
And you're making an even bigger fool of yourself. Michel Powell's FCC made
established that "tuner mandate" of 2007, and reinterpreted the 85% rule, to
include users of MVPDs, rather than the original idea of just "digital TV"
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