[opendtv] Re: Streaming Media.com: What is Streaming?

  • From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:35:09 -0500

On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Craig Birkmaier wrote:

What it does say is that broadcasters started using Flash quickly, and that
by 2007, to try to "stem the tide," Microsoft introduced Silverlight. So,
what do you suppose all this traffic created by the "broadcasters" was?

Mostly promos for their shows, and behind the scene stuff. These were all short
clips.

As for Microsoft, they tried to buy their way into the TV market for years,
starting with the DTV Team. They tried to get the SMPTE to create a standard
around one of their codecs. Gates spent years doing CES keynotes with demos of
the connected home built around Windows Media technologies. Silverlight was
just the last gasp attempt to own the market before it moved on to a standards
based solution with h.264, followed by HTML5.

Just like I said, during Version 9. So this means that for sure, before
December of 2007, I was streaming those full length episodes. Because the
glitches were not happening initially. Works for me. The congloms have been
offering full length episodes online, for about 10 years now, give or take a
year.

Sorry, but that does not prove a thing. I started downloading movies and TV
programs in 2005. I still have a few of those files. But I paid for those
programs, and they were protected by Apple's DRM.

The fact remains that I cannot find any evidence that the broadcast networks
started streaming FOTI in 2005 or 2006.

It didn't appear in Flash Player until the end of 2007. That was years later
than 2005, Craig, and even more years later than 2003, when VP6 and H.263
were used in Flash.

Get your fact straight Bert. Yesterday you posted:

"In April 2005, On2 Technologies licensed On2 Video Codec (including VP6 and
VP7) for Macromedia Flash. In August 2005, Macromedia announced they had
selected VP6 as the flagship new codec for video playback in the new Flash
Player 8."


FLASH was the dominant means by which rich media web sites were built and video
content was streamed from 2005 until late in the decade. It took several years
after 2007 for many sites like CBS to move to h.264. For a fairly long period
sites hosted video files in both VP6 and h.264 - a few still do.

In trying to determine when the congloms began using the Internet for full
length episodes, the only reason to mention H.264 is that I was watching
these before Flash got H.264. So there you are. Before December of 2007 for
sure.

This article says CBS started using h.264 in 2009 to stream to iPhones.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/02/26/cbs_streaming_free_tv_programming_to_iphone_users

I found a streaming media article on Wikipedia that mentioned online on
demand for UK TV, in 2006. So that's just about 10 years ago. It only
mentioned that in the US, by 2010, 80% of households had already been using
such Internet service.

As I have noted several times, the U.S. content congloms did not start
streaming full length programs until there was strong content protection (DRM)
to prevent theft. This happened with iTunes in 2005, but few people had the
bandwidth needed to stream these files. Microsoft added DRM for PCs in 2006,
and several streaming services including Netflix and Hulu launched in 2007.


Regards
Craig

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