I have line of sight to those 3 towers you mention (on Queen Anne Hill) 1 to 2 miles away across open water (Lake Union). The Space Needle is about 15 degrees left of the towers and 2 miles away. I started with omni then reflector antennas because towers are spread in a 50 degree arc, but a silver sensor pointed away from the towers with gain set high gives the best results. I have to point another 15 degrees left of the Space Needle to get stable reception, so maybe I'm getting the bounce off the Space Needle while rejecting the first arrival of the 3 nearest towers. Or maybe one of the big bridges, or the tall buildings downtown are producing the echo of those three towers while allowing direct path from some more distant towers that I'm receiving. When I do a circular sweep, I can find dozens of strong echoes that give me a few stations at a time, but only one angle where there are no towers located that gives me the most. I get 7 stations (plus a few subchannels), including one station I can't get on analog but minus one I used to watch the most on analog. My remaining problem is that the echo pattern seems to shift with the weather and a couple stations drop out to the point they sometimes aren't watchable. Luckily, "The Daily Show" and "Arrested Development" are available 24x7 on my phone line to the Internet. Kilroy Hughes -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:07 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Sony Vaio home theater PC Kilroy Hughes wrote: > My biggest problem was getting a reliable ATSC signal because > I'm near city center on a flat lake with line of sight to the > transmitters (:-) go figure. I went through several tuners and > antennas until I found a combination that could handle the > multipath for most of the stations with a single antenna position > and gain ("5th gen" tuner cards beat out the built in DTV tuners > I tried). I still record dropouts and blocking every couple > minutes when the rain gets bad ... about 160 days a year in > Seattle. I never watch live broadcast, so I'm not around to beat > and swear at the antenna when it's happening and just have to > delete shows when they are too messed up. On a recent trip to Seattle, I finally went up the Space Needle. The guide and elevator operator said it is 520' tall. So my first reaction was, "Big deal. I bet I can see TV towers looming over it." And sure enough, after we got to the top, I scanned the horizon and found three TV towers on a ridge, I think to the North of the Space Needle, and considerably taller than it is. It seemed like DTV reception in Seattle SHOULD be a piece of cake. How strange. Maybe they should use Mount Rainier instead? I'd love to know exactly what makes reception difficult when it should be easy. Is it one of those super long and strong echoes, like they measured in the Bay Area? Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.