For the UBBER-TVER who can't get by with simple indoor antennas, wouldn't Cable or SAT make more sense???? ///////////////////////////////////////// "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Richard Hollandsworth wrote: > Just the environment for a Smart Antenna....if the high > level signals don't overload the front end... > > Mark Schubin wrote: > > > Since the beginning of DTT-reception testing in my > > apartment, WCBS-DT and WNYW-DT have been co-located on > > the Empire State Building. Yet directional receiving > > antennas have had to be pointed in different directions > > (or even placved in different locations) for reception > > of those two. The best results with the latest receivers > > have been with relatively non-directional loops. My guess in Mark's apartment is that the elevation of each station's transmitting antenna on the ESB's tower might have an effect. Because the differences in elevation might create different propagation paths, as the signals bounce around to reach the indoor antenna, when the receiver is so close to the very elevated transmitting antennas. In any event, 5th gen receivers seem to have solved the aiming problem, if the antennas are non-directional enough to make use of the energy from multiple propagation paths. I believe this is true whether window placement is required or for the special best case of the LG 5th gen prototype. As to the smart antenna idea, it is a great way to get the ultimate fix, but it has consequences that don't seem to be discussed. Let's not forget that the antenna(s) and downlead are going to be shared among many receivers, each one tuned to a different channel. I can easily see 6 such receivers in an average household, between radios, TVs, and recording devices. Al Limberg and Doug champion the mast-mounted remote tuner design. For multiple receivers, you would need as many of these tuners to be installed on the mast. I agree that this is the technically preferred solution, but at the same time, I tend to get new TV toys at Christmas. Not a good time to plan this sort of tuner installation. But there are other options. Instead of installing one remote tuner for each receiver, you install one remote tuner for each STATION available OTA. For apartment complexes, this is probably feasible. It in essence creates a mini-CATV system. You dedicate one tuner to each local station then remodulate the output for distribution, and no need for any signal upstream from receivers. The only problem here is that potentially many tuners are required. For example, I would require 19 of these tuners. Another option is to locate the tuners indoors, but still remote from the receivers. This requires multiple downleads from each antenna, each downlead dedicated to one tuner. It's possible you'd also require a wide band antenna amp to distribute the antenna signal from each antenna to each tunable front end. this option has the advantage that you don't need to crawl up to the mast in cold, windy weather. If, that is, you provision enough spare downleads ahead of time. Another option is to locate the tunable front end inside each receiver. I still think that for purely PRACTICAL reasons, this sort of solution is the best. Perhaps the LG 5th gen prototype combined a tunable front end with a dual-conversion receiver?? Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.