Rotated constellations are optional in DVB-T2. More details on the WNUV testing here: http://www.tvtechnology.com/distribution/0099/details-on-wnuvs-experimental-license-to-test-ofdm/217889 Ron On 2/21/2013 5:13 PM, Allen Le Roy Limberg wrote:
I believe mobile reception is not the primary interest in Sinclair Broadcasting pursuing DVB-T2, which uses uses concatenated BCH and LDPC coding earlier used by DVB for satellite transmissions. If vehicular mobile reception were of primary interest, the DVB-H standard that is being abandoned in Europe for lack of commercial interest might be the better choice. Although the code rate of DVB-H is appreciably lower than DVB-T2, it appears to be substantially more rugged in regard to the burst noise and signal drop-out conditions one expects for mobile reception in moving vehicles. One reason for looking more closely at COFDM is that its performance in single-frequency networks can be appreciably better than single-carrier broadcasting. IMHO though, DVB-T2 is deeply flawed in its use of rotated QAM symbol constellation techniques for its plural carriers. The gains noticed in such practice are those attributable to transmitting the same information twice with appreciable time-diversity. Rotation of QAM symbol constellations reduces the size of data-slicing bins during QAM de-maping procedures, however, which adversely affects performance at low carrier to AWGN ratios. Single-time retransmission of non-rotated QAM symbol constellations is preferable, since surprisingly it allows much larger digital payloads in practice for given performance at low carrier to AWGN ratios. This is because larger QAM symbol constellations are feasible for a given bin size for data-slicing, and the two-dimensionality of QAM is exploited. Hopefully Sinclair Broadcasting engineers will look into this probable shortcoming of DVB-T2. Al Limberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E"<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To:<opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Sinclair to test OFDM-DTV2 signalGary Blievernicht posted:http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/491923-Exclusive_FCC_OKs_Test_of_New_TV_Transmission_Standard.php----------------------- excerpt: WNUV has six months to test from Feb. 15, when the authorization wasgranted, though it can seek a renewal. The FCC's Media Bureau, which granted the experimental temporary authority, makes it clear that only a small number of test devices can be used and no commercial application is allowed, both of which WNUV itself offered up as conditions of the experimental license.----------------------- Exciting stuff. And good choice, Sinclair. Maybe we'll finally get somecurrent comparison results. Although I have a feeling that Aitken and company are going to be more interested in tuning the service for handheld receivers, rather than to reach my antenna at ground level, 46.6 miles (74.6 Km) distant! Which now comes in very well indeed, unless we have high winds. Strong wind is the biggest problem for my reception, even though both antennas are indoors.----------------------- Excerpt: Sinclair has been arguing that broadcasters should look at hanging on totheir spectrum rather than put it up for auction, suggesting they will need it for advanced TV services and flexible delivery. It has also said broadcasters could work with wireless carriers to help offload traffic at peak periods.At a Hudson Institute event Tuesday, former FCC chairman Dick Wiley, whohelped develop the HDTV transmission standard, said he thought a new transmission standard accommodating ultra-HDTV and multiplatform delivery was in broadcasting's future, but says it might take up to a decade because it is not backward compatible-it will require new TV sets. Wiley opined that perhaps if the standard could have been changed sooner, there might not have been a need for the incentive auctions.------------------------ Well, you don't need DVB-T2 for the UHDTV part. You need H.265. Andindeed, supporting UHDTV would work against any handheld reception ideas, because you'd want the system tuned for spectral efficiency. Also, I'm not sure why Wiley thought "that perhaps if the standard could have been changed sooner, there might not have been a need for the incentive auctions." The auctions are specifically to yank away spectrum dedicated to one-way broadcast, in favor of adding to the two-way cellular service. More than likely, Mark's comment about offloading wireless carrier traffic during peak periods was misconstrued. I wouldn't be surprised. What traffic can be offloaded is only one-way broadcast traffic. DVB-T2 is not a 2-way standard.Bert
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