I notice how, when confronted, you actually end up with real data. So, they arenot being assigned on a 36 or 24 mhz basis, which was (i'll be polite) the impression that your previous post left. The mind boggled as to what a public service licensee (usually a county or city or related political subdivision) would do with a handful of 6, 24 or 36 mhz assignments. Of course, they want such broad bands, but there are usually more public service entities in a metro area than there are tv stations, even when you include digital assignments.. John Willkie P.S. Of course, they aren't doing it at 6 mhz or multiples: 6mhz is only needed for ANALOG video. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:27 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Questions about DTT Transition and Channels 60-69 > While the Public Safety channels are still 6 MHz the rest of the TV > channels are "allocated" in 1, 2, 5 and 10 MHz "channels. > > http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/bandplans/700band.pdf > > Bob Miller > > John Willkie wrote: > > >please provide more information on how these channels are no longer 6 mhz. > >Do you have something from the FCC (I don't read press or news releases; > >only offer texts) that actually says this? > > > >In my decades of experience, the fcc always allocates or reallocates using > >these big numbers, but when you look into it (cases in point: OFS, MMDS, > >cellular, etc) it's many channels within that allocated band. > > > >You are probably confused about terminology (again). Allocation is > >assigning a block of frequencies. Assignment is apportioning a part of > >those frequencies to a particular use or uses, and a community or region. > >Then, there's the actual application process. > > > >Notice how your pr quote mentions allocation and assignment. > > > >John Willkie > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:31 AM > >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Questions about DTT Transition and Channels 60-69 > > > > > > > > > >>Not all channels are public safety. And they are not 6 MHz channels > >>anymore either. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/News_Releases/1998/nret80 01.html > > > > > >>"Specifically, the Commission allocated 24 MHz at 764-776 MHz and > >>794-806 MHz to the fixed and mobile services for public safety use. This > >>spectrum allocation is the single largest allocation to public safety > >>services in history, and more than doubles the total spectrum available > >>to public safety agencies. > >> > >>The remaining 36 MHz at 746-764 MHz and 776-794 MHz were allocated to > >>the fixed, mobile, and broadcasting services. Licenses in this spectrum > >>will be assigned by competitive bidding." > >> > >>Bob Miller > >> > >> > >> > >>dgrimes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I'm sure this has already been discussed, but please enlighten me. > >>> > >>>If channels 60-69 are now reserved for Public Safety communications, it > >>>seems to me the DTT transition exacerbated the problem. First, I was > >>>surprised upon inspecting FCC documents that 98 stations across the > >>> > >>> > >country > > > > > >>>are broadcasting analog on channels 60-69. Second, I was surprised to > >>> > >>> > >see > > > > > >>>37 stations are broadcasting digital on that band of spectrum. Why > >>> > >>> > >didn't > > > > > >>>the FCC just assign the 98 broadcasts to new frequencies? There must > >>> > >>> > >have > > > > > >>>been enough frequencies because the FCC assigned all those additional > >>>frequencies for DTT. Is it because of co-channel interference? If so, > >>> > >>> > >why > > > > > >>>don't they care about co-channel interference with the digital channels? > >>>Or is this just a temporary problem until the transition is complete? I > >>>assume the new 37 digital channels will be re-assigned? > >>> > >>>Or is the real answer that the DTT transition was not about Public Safety > >>>communications? > >>> > >>>(Please note that these are not sarcastic questions. I am interested in > >>>knowing what the politics and problems are. I apologize if this opens > >>> > >>> > >old > > > > > >>>wounds.) > >>> > >>>Dan Grimes > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.