[opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:54:29 -0700
technology isn't plural? Have you ever noticed that a technique is
singular, and technology is plural?
John Willkie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55
> But I did. "MPEG2 technology" is not plural and does not imply codec and
transport stream. Technology could mean just the codec as I meant it. I will
be more specific in the future. I have no problem with MPEG2 transport
stream but a major problem with MPEG2 being the only codec that mandated
receivers can handle. I beleive it is a handicap that OTA does not need.
>
> Bob Miller
>
> > Yes but the strangeness emanates from the fact that
> > broadcasters passed on developing their OTA spectrum
> > for actually broadcasting. They seem content with
> > ancient 8-VSB and MPEG2 technology with no thought to
> > mobile on their spectrum while spending all their
> > efforts on multicast must carry.
>
>
>
> John Willkie wrote:
>
> >funny that you also didn't read bert's posting of the relevant text to
the
> >list yesterday.
> >
> >John Willkie
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:44 PM
> >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Now I used the plural, technologies, I don't remember doing so, might
> >>have, my computer doesn't remember either. Could you point out where I
> >>used this dastardly indictable "plural". If I did I apologize for the
> >>grievous error since I did not mean to suggest that MPEG2 transport was
> >>ancient, just the codec.
> >>
> >>Bob Miller
> >>
> >>John Willkie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>no, you spoke of MPEG-4 technologies supplanting MPEG-2 technologies.
> >>>
> >>>
> >Note
> >
> >
> >>>the plural. You've conceded video is one technology. Could you
> >>>
> >>>
> >describle
> >
> >
> >>>the other technology in MPEG-2 that will be supplanted by MPEG-4 in the
> >>>
> >>>
> >ATSC
> >
> >
> >>>universe, heck even in the DVB universe.
> >>>
> >>>John Willkie
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:24 PM
> >>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I have never spoken of MPEG4 transport streams.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bob Miller
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>John Willkie wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I do not believe you have any authority to assert what is understood
> >>>>>commonly or otherwise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>When one speaks of MPEG-4 transport streams, as you did, one is a
fool.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John Willkie
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:05 PM
> >>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I think John knew that. It is understood that MPEG2 commonly refers
to
> >>>>>>the compression codec. When someone speaks of the MPEG2 transport
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >stream
> >
> >
> >>>>>>they say MPEG2 transport stream.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bob Miller
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>John Shutt wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Alright John, enough. I think you've beaten Bob over the head long
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>enough
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>for what you know perfectly well was a slip of the tongue. When he
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>said
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>MPEG-2 Transport Streams were obsolete, you know he meant MPEG-2
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >video
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>compression.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sheesh.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>It was not I who said that MPEG-2 transport streams were passe,
nor
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>was
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I
> >>>>>>>>who thought that there were MPEG-4 transport streams. I deal with
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>MPEG-4
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>all the time. In MPEG-2 transport streams.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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