Initializing the equalizer from DFS info is finally starting to be considered by LG, I find, as indicated in the published patent application listed below. Fimoff has been looking at how to compensate for edge effects because the PN511 sequence is not repeated. Pity Zenith didn't look into this twelve or fifteen years ago. Al J. H. Cheon & H. B. Jeon Zhang, "Synchronization Signal Detection Circuit and Method of Digital Television (DTV) Receiver", U. S. Pat. App. Ser. No. 11/ 248 861 filed 12 Oct. 2005, published 13 Apr. 2006 with Pub. No. 2006-0078072. M. Fimoff, S. Ozen & M. D. Zoltowski, "Tap Weigh Initializer for an Adaptive Equalizer", U. S. Pat. App. Ser. No. 10/ 142 110 filed 9 May 2002, published 3 Apr. 2003 with Pub. No. 2003-0063665. M. Fimoff, S. M. Nerayanuru & S. Ozen, "Channel Estimator for an Adaptive Equalizer", U. S. Pat. App. Ser. No. 10/ 142 108 filed 9 May 2002, published 13 Nov. 2003 with Pub. No. 2003-0210741. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Patent application on 8-VSB equalizer > John Shutt wrote: > > Al, > > > > Since the patent was issued six years ago, can I assume that no product has > > been made thus far using this technique? Is the theory much easier than the > > practice? > > > > I've always wondered how you can use the data segment sync bits to estimate > > multipath > > cross-correlation with the known pattern. It takes LOTS of > signal averaging to get a respectable S/N, however. This > works because only the sync bits and the training sequence > is constant. > > Doug McDonald > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.