[opendtv] Re: PR: Majority of New HDTVs Powered By ATI
- From: "GerryK" <gerryk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:02:04 -0700
RE: TV Guide On Screen is set up to receive IPG data
overnight from the local PBS analog TV signal, which it can receive via
basic cable connections as well as OTA -
I'm not sure how much of the PSIP data will get transposed into the
TV Guide On Screen IPG, but I believe that Triveni Digital is working on
a system that would send the PSIP program guide data to the
TV Guide On Screen server in the area -
so the TV Guide On Screen IPG would have most of the
local TV listings available - but would not be able to track
real-time changes -
as others have mentioned - getting a useable IPG into the TV sets
using only the digital ATSC signals would require some coordination among
the
local TV stations, as well as some cooperation with the TV set manufacturers
One TV set manufacturer plans to provide a wireless Ethernet feature in
their digital TV sets,
so if the TV set owner has a wireless in-home network that also connects to
a broadband service,
the TV set can literally "surf" to the local TV Guide online web site, and
download the program
listings for cable, satellite, and local over-the-air TV programming that
way -
thanks for you comments
Gerry Kaufhold with In-Stat/MDR
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From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:22 AM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: PR: Majority of New HDTVs Powered By ATI
> Gee, Gerry, just how will those sets get the data to populate the TV Guide
> On Screen interactive program guide? Carrier pidgeon? I would hope they
> also have full PSIP support, which you fail to mention.
>
> John Willkie
>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:13 AM
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> Subject: [opendtv] Re: PR: Majority of New HDTVs Powered By ATI
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>
> Several TV set manufacturers are planning to have
> digital TV sets with integrated ATSC and Digital Cable receivers
> for delivery during Calendar 2005, and they will be the same retail price
> as the "monitor only" versions -
>
> these new integrated digital TV sets will also be using the
> TV Guide On Screen interactive program guide,
> and some will have integrated Ethernet 802.11/a/b/g network connectivity
>
> for some of the TV set manufacturers, it looks like a strategic option
> to sell the integrated digital TV set that can "search for and find"
> local, over the air HDTV programming, using features of the
> TV Guide On Screen IPG -
>
> also, at the point of purchase, the bulk of TV sets are laden with
> features,
> like Picture in Picture, surround sound audio outputs, on-screen displays,
> etc
> so the TV set manufacturers are really against "monitor only" products -
>
> engineers and techies see the advanatage of "monitor only"
> but people who are shopping for a new TV set at Best Buy are going
> to go for the biggest, best-looking picture at a selected price point,
> and then the salese person will drive them to the set with the most
> features
> that fits that category -
>
> by late 2005, we will see that the integrated TV sets, with built-in
> features,
> will become the bulk of the consumer digital TV market
>
> Gerry Kaufhold
> In-Stat/MDR
> gkaufhold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> voice: 520 363-9752
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:33 AM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: PR: Majority of New HDTVs Powered By ATI
>
>
>> At 12:47 PM -0800 11/17/04, Dale Kelly wrote:
>>> >>Will that (two way plug and play) not then completely negate the need
>>> for
>>>>>an STB?
>>>Craig wrote:
>>>> Only if you are buying a new TV with integrated receivers.
>>>
>>> True, wonder what the percentage mix between monitors and receivers
>>> will
>>> be
>>>in the future? Anyone purchasing a set to connect to cable or for OTA
>>>would
>>>likely opt for the cable ready receiver, but it's hard to say.
>>
>> I'm not too sure this is going to be true. Based on recent
>> information I have seen, it looks like the CE retailers have stocked
>> up heavily on monitors for this Christmas buying season. At least two
>> thirds are monitors, possibly as high as 90%.
>>
>> Given the volatility of the DTV marketplace, I suspect that most
>> consumers will opt for monitors, if for no other reason than to
>> future proof their purchases. The cable industry still has the upper
>> hand in the STB box market, based on their ability to buy in volume
>> and finance the purchase via a monthly "rental" fee. As Tom
>> indicated, these fees are low enough to make buying an integrated
>> receiver a questionable decision; Even at $10 month, it would take
>> nearly three years to recover the cost of the cable ready tuner in an
>> integrated TV. And then there's the issue with two-way interactivity
>> and PVRs. And don't forget, that the DBS guys got screwed in the
>> cable ready agreement; you'll still need a STB if you want DBS rather
>> than cable.
>>
>> I'm getting ready to replace my first generation CRT-based HD
>> monitor, with a DLP-based monitor. I have no incentive to receive
>> off-air signals, and the monthly cable rental fee for the SA HD/PVR
>> STB is low enough, should I actually want to watch HD signals.
>> Frankly, HD is not all that important at the moment. A sharp picture
>> on a big screen is what we need, and most of what we watch is still
>> SDTV. With a monitor I can add HD when I am ready to start paying the
>> premium.
>>
>> Regards
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
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