Tom Barry wrote: > I do not have access to DVB/COFDM to test. Do you now > believe that you can get equivalent after-FEC throughput > (spectral efficiency) with 8vsb using non-directional > antennas at the same power and spectrum width? With 8T-VSB set up as it is in A/53, we get 3.23 b/s/Hz (calculated as described below). That is better than just about all deployed DVB-T setups, in some cases by just a tad. The most spectrally efficient COFDM used in DVB-T that I know of would be the French 64-QAM, 2/3 FEC, 1/32 GI mode, which offers 24.13 Mb/s. To be completely fair about expressing this in b/s/Hz, I'll use the total channel bandwidth, not the actual bandwidth used by the signal. Which will favor COFDM in 8K mode, because it's shoulders are steeper than those of 8-VSB, meaning it can fill in more of the 8 MHz channel than 8-VSB can fill of its 6 MHz channel. So in 8 MHz of RF bandwidth, 24.13 Mb/s comes out to 3.02 b/s/Hz. In that mode, the C/N margin required in a gaussian channel is 16.5 dB. 8T-VSB provides 19.39 Mb/s in 6 MHz, or 3.23 b/s/Hz, for 15.2 dB of C/N in a gaussian channel. Now, I'm sure that most DVB-T receivers out there now are better at this than most 8T-VSB receivers are, but I know that I can take my DB4 antenna downstairs, in the den, indoors, and wave it around the room, and receive a solid signal for at least some of the broadcast channels. I happened to try this on the local Fox 5 station, which fortuitously is one of the stations that gives me a strong signal. I know for a fact that other stations won't allow this sort of behavior, though, e.g. the Baltimore stations. Still, the Fox 5 transmitter is more than 12 miles away as the crow flies, and I'm down in a valley. Honestly, I believe that today there are far more interesting and intriguing things to wonder about in the future of TV distribution, than modulation standard. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.