[opendtv] Re: One more time -- Louisiana Governor...
- From: Cliff Benham <cbenham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:49:04 -0400
The 3rd sentence says I was living in St.Petersburg for 46 years. I
still have many friends there so these are not
distant memories by any means.
Two years ago the power was knocked out for 4 days by the hurricane
that came through [where I now live] South Eastern PA.
This is out in the country, so without electricity, and there being NO
other
city utilities like gas or water, I had nothing.
This was worse than any hurricane I experienced in Florida.
John Willkie wrote:
>Ahem indeed. It took five days for the federal response to H. Andrew '92.
>Where were you living? (I was safely in so cal.)
>
>Your distant memories (by time and location) are better than Al's? He had
>this problem LAST YEAR.
>
>John Willkie
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <cbenham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:13 AM
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: One more time -- Louisiana Governor...
>
>
>
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>>Ahem. This is a rather extreme view. I was born and lived for 46 years in
>>
>>
>St. Petersburg, Florida, and experienced the effects of 6 hurricanes that
>hit the Tampa Bay area in that time.
>
>
>>It was never as bad as what you describe.
>>
>>Power and phone were out for 3 or 4 days sometimes, not at all for others,
>>
>>
>once the local grocery store gave away perishable items that were still cold
>or frozen to anyone who came in,
>
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>>radio & TV stations were still on the air, gas stations and drugstores
>>
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>were open, we did not have to 'chuck' everything because it got moldy,
>appliances did not stop working because of the high humidity and life
>returned to normal within a few days.
>
>
>>Just to make sure, I looked up "Storms of the Century" published in 1995
>>
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>by the St. Petersburg Times, which you can read at:
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>>http://www2.sptimes.com/weather/HF.1.html
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>>>Hurricanes completely disrupt your life. There is no electricity or
>>>telephone for two weeks or more. Some businesses are wrecked to never
>>>reopen. Groceries re-open after a few days using emergency power.
>>>Everything perishable has to be chucked -- at home and in the grocery.
>>>
>>>
>It
>
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>>>will take you months to get your car repaired locally. If your house
>>>
>>>
>didn't
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>>>get completely wrecked, you probably got water in the house through
>>>
>>>
>holes in
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>>>the roof or broken windows. With no AC everything begins to mold. So
>>>
>>>
>most
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>>>of your bedding and furniture ends up curbside.
>>>
>>>Appliances stop working because of the 100% humidity in the house.
>>>
>>>
>People
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>>>in the North have no idea how destructive Southern summer climate is on
>>>stuff when there is no AC.
>>>
>>>There is no gasoline available locally. Flats are a problem because of
>>>
>>>
>all
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>>>the debri in the roadways. Drive a few miles away and everything is
>>>
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>normal.
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>>>All the info you get is from small battery-powered radios. TV just has
>>>
>>>
>guys
>
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>>>leaning into the wind and pictures of storm damage for the people a few
>>>miles away to watch.
>>>
>>>There is a complete suck up of all available building materials in a
>>>
>>>
>quarter
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>
>>>of the US, so it takes months to repair. There are no reputable
>>>
>>>
>contractors
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>>>that are not backlogged. You have to pay up front and are in constant
>>>
>>>
>worry
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>>>about being cheated. Things disappear.
>>>
>>>You can lose almost all control of your life, which is very distressing.
>>>People presume that since a few months have gone by, everything should
>>>
>>>
>be
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>>>repaired. But your wife still has nightmares about the sheetrock
>>>
>>>
>ceilings
>
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>>>collapsing under the weight of rain-soaked insulation.
>>>
>>>Here in Port Charlotte we didn't have the tidal surge and flooding.
>>>
>>>
>That
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>>>must compound the destruction and misery.
>>>
>>>The people from New Orleans and Mississippi are just a few steps down a
>>>difficult and painful road.
>>>
>>>Al Limberg
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:23 PM
>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: One more time -- Louisiana Governor...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>excellent point, Bert. Dilletantes watch. Those affected turn to
>>>>
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>radios.
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>>>>In southern california, where the disasters have no warning mechanism,
>>>>
>>>>
>at
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>>>>the first sign of an earthquake, we turn to radio (KNX, and to a
>>>>
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>lesser
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>>>>extent KOGO) for news. TV will cover it tomorrow, but those affected
>>>>
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>>>can't
>>>
>>>
>>>>wait for the pictures."
>>>>
>>>>John Willkie
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:32 PM
>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: One more time -- Louisiana Governor...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ken Hunold wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have no first-hand knowledge of what broadcasters
>>>>>>in New Orleans are doing right now, but generally
>>>>>>people tend to listen to the radio during disasters,
>>>>>>not TV or cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>This probably depends a lot on whether the listener or
>>>>>viewer is trying to get away, or is otherwise actively
>>>>>engaged in the crisis, or whether he is watching,
>>>>>fascinated but passive, as the devastation unfolds.
>>>>>Those who have the luxury of just being able to watch
>>>>>probably prefer TV coverage. Those who have something
>>>>>to do "right now" can't sit around watching TV.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If "the Government" wants to use COFDM for emergency
>>>>>>communication, why should that be a problem? Why
>>>>>>should it impact the existing television delivery
>>>>>>system? Leveraging mass-market technologies into
>>>>>>these roles (some would say "shoe-horning") doesn't
>>>>>>always work well anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Amen.
>>>>>
>>>>>What they seem to be doing in Louisiana makes a lot of
>>>>>sense. Combine the assets of multiple broadcasters to
>>>>>keep the population informed. Perhaps simulcast from
>>>>>multiple sites to improve coverage (in effect,
>>>>>increasing the C/N margin). As they are doing already.
>>>>>
>>>>>And now you're left with quite a bit of free spectrum
>>>>>for emergency crews, if only their sets were designed
>>>>>to use these frequencies. Those emergency crew radios
>>>>>can use whatever modulation is best suited to their
>>>>>narrowly defined needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bert
>>>>>
>>>>>
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