"not supported" is passive voice. Just what percentage of actual -- say, habitated -- points on the earth is represented by the NASA data? (very small, close to nil). And, what do we have to compare it to? Seems to me to be an exercise akin to blind folk describing an elephant. John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Dale Kelly Enviado el: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:16 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse gas Graig wrote > We have been in a period of global cooling since 1998, with a rather > dramatic drop in 2007. Your Global Cooling proposition is not supported by the facts as presented in the following NASA global mean temperature records. You simply cannot prove a predisposition by cherry picking data to support that position. The NASA records clearly show that 2007 was actually warmer than 1998. However, data for the first seven months of 2008 do show a relative cooling, though these cooler temperatures are still significantly warmer than the mean average temperature baseline. Rather than miss characterizing this as "Global cooling, it is best described by "the temperature rise in 2008 has slowed somewhat" http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt > Consider the work of Don J. Easterbrook, Professor Emeritus > geomorphology; glacial geology; Pleistocene geochronology; > environmental and engineering geology; Western Washington University. This presentation seems factual, is very interesting and is well presented but the conclusions are simply one mans opinion. He does conclude that warming is a fact but cannot prove or disprove that Co2 increases due to human activities are a source for this increased warming. *In conclusion:* your reply does not address the original posting which reports a newer and more powerful human activity related green house gases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.