[opendtv] Re: OTA reception? Where?

  • From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:41:28 -0700

You are not going to be happy watching HDTV content streamed at 8 mbps, let
alone having to put 13 mb/sec into a 3 mb/sec pipe.  HDTV is easily 13
mb/sec.  Buffering is not the issue; you'd be happy to have some buffering.
Analog, encoded appropriately, should be able to fit into a 3 mb/sec pipe,
even at 30 fps.

Toronto has a few DTV stations.  Have you thought about buying a $300
Samsung DTV STB and just hooking it up to an existing set?  The problem with
8-VSB reception is near-field (close to the transmitter) among high signal
levels and multiple transmitters among tall, reflective buildings.  You
might need a fancy indoor antenna, but first try just the box-tie antenna
that comes with tv sets and stbs.
Frankly, even with snowy pictures, you're better off with analog ota tv than
with using your idea to transmit digital.

John Willkie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Watt" <jwatt@xxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:42 PM
Subject: [opendtv] OTA reception? Where?


> I've been following much of what has been said on this list about over the
> air broadcasting and the future of same.  It's been interesting to hear
the
> various viewpoints.
> However, as a consumer (or consumer wannabe), I wish some of what you're
> talking about was actually available.  During the week I live in Toronto,
a
> fairly major center in Canada.  I'm living in an apt here but go home to
my
> comfy house with satellite during the weekends.  Here, in the largest city
> in Canada, in a relatively dense residential area, on _the_ major street
> through the city (Yonge St), I can't even receive ONE channel without also
> getting the weather report (SNOW! And lots of it).  There are no clear
> channels, not that we receive more than about 5 over the air here anyway.
> The apartment carries Rogers cable only, no satellite and no big antenna
on
> the roof.  I just want to watch some television once in a while.  Is that
so
> much to ask?  It doesn't even have to be HD - I'm happy with the crappy
old
> analog signal as long as it's clear.
>
> So, if I may, while you are discussing the relative merits of COFDM vs.
8VSB
> and other very useful and very interesting things, there are plenty of
> potential viewers out here who can't watch TV.  Yes, it's television and
on
> the whole not very important, but there are _some_ shows worth catching,
and
> it's good for a break now and again.
>
> My solution, for when I eventually get around to it, is to capture the
> satellite signal from the television at home and use one of the programs
> that streams video content to send it to the apt (over a VPN link between
> the two places).  At the apt I get 8Mbps service and at home it's 3Mbps
> (down, 500k up I think it is), so there may be some buffering involved -
and
> a very powerful remote control! :-)
>
> James.
>
>
>
>
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