Right. One way to think about this is that the Joint Video Team (JVT) developed a new video codec design (not audio, not file formats, not transport - only video) and this design simply gets published across both ISO and ITU letterhead for the sake of convenience and documentation. Where this new video codec design appears in the ISO documentation kit it is swept into a chapter in the MPEG-4 documentation tree (MPEG wasn't about to make a new MPEG-X just for this new video codec). Where it appears in ITU-land it is H.264 (following on from H.263 etc). But the codec design is technically identical and interoperable. There is no other mandatory binding to anything else MPEG-4, and this new video codec design can just as easily go over MPEG-2 transport streams, RTP or anything else that you want. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:53 AM ... <Various individuals> seem to have fallen into the same trap as many others by inappropriately thinking of AVC as MPEG-4. AVC is nothing more than a new video codec that is PART of the MPEG-4 architecture. With respect to the MPEG-4 file format, AVC is just another addition to a table of supported codecs that can be included inside the file container as part of an MPEG-4 composition. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.