[opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:17:47 -0400

Back in Detroit on MediaOne->AT&T->Comcast (same cable subscription) I could get one channel of HBO as something like channel 5 analog for the longest time, maybe 10-20 years without subscribing to anything more than (extended?) basic cable. Because of the channel placement I had to assume it was on purpose and they knew about it. Whatever reason, maybe that carries over to digital.


- Tom


John Willkie wrote:
not for me, but for my mother.  It was free when I checked more than three 
years ago, and it is free now.  I didn't check in between.

I think it's a serious mis-configuration error.  I was floored when I first 
discovere it more than 3 years ago.  I suspect nobody is complaining about it 
to Cox.

John Willkie

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Goldberg <adam_g@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jun 8, 2008 7:04 AM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News

and one channel of HBO for NO additional cost.
That's certainly a short-term error/misconfiguration, no?  How long has HBO 
been free for you?

-----Original Message-----
From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of John Willkie
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:05 AM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News

I can' speak to "the majority of cable programming", but I believe the 
statement is incorrect.

What is gained -- at least in the case I'm most recently familiar with -- is 
the clear QAM receiver permits analog customers on Cox Cable San Diego (their 
largest system) to get many DIGITAL channels, all local channels, and one 
channel of HBO for NO additional cost.

Did I highlight that?  HBO in the clear?  I think there's a good case for 
encrypting the Hallmark Channel and other mini-pays, but to not encrypt all 
channels of HBO is something that I have no doubt violates the HBO contract 
with Cox.

Assume nothing.

John Willkie

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jun 6, 2008 6:53 AM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News

At 9:46 PM -0400 6/5/08, Tom Barry wrote:
Sorry, I can't quote any numbers or hard facts, only my own opinion picked up from hanging out on AVS and from shopping for a low end LCD when my projector bulb popped a few months ago.

But I can say that, at the low end, both Target's Olevia and Walmart's Vizio newer models all seem to support clear QAM. I ended up with a Vizio and can say it has no problems with it on Cox. And I think Vizio is now something like the 2nd best selling LCD brand now.

Until the sparsity of 'hard facts' is corrected I'm going to stick with my previous opinion that clear QAM support will become an expected option in most sets going forward. And I also think true2way has some momentum building.

- Tom
While clear QAM support may exist in many new receivers, what is it good for?

Apparently you can see some broadcast re-transmissions, but presumably you could get them with an antenna. It is my understanding that virtually all digital cable content is encrypted...

Is this what most people are finding?

Regards
Craig


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