not for me, but for my mother. It was free when I checked more than three years ago, and it is free now. I didn't check in between. I think it's a serious mis-configuration error. I was floored when I first discovere it more than 3 years ago. I suspect nobody is complaining about it to Cox. John Willkie -----Original Message----- >From: Adam Goldberg <adam_g@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jun 8, 2008 7:04 AM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News > >> and one channel of HBO for NO additional cost. > >That's certainly a short-term error/misconfiguration, no? How long has HBO >been free for you? > >-----Original Message----- >From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of John Willkie >Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:05 AM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News > >I can' speak to "the majority of cable programming", but I believe the >statement is incorrect. > >What is gained -- at least in the case I'm most recently familiar with -- is >the clear QAM receiver permits analog customers on Cox Cable San Diego (their >largest system) to get many DIGITAL channels, all local channels, and one >channel of HBO for NO additional cost. > >Did I highlight that? HBO in the clear? I think there's a good case for >encrypting the Hallmark Channel and other mini-pays, but to not encrypt all >channels of HBO is something that I have no doubt violates the HBO contract >with Cox. > >Assume nothing. > >John Willkie > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Jun 6, 2008 6:53 AM >>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: The Real Fight Over Fake News >> >>At 9:46 PM -0400 6/5/08, Tom Barry wrote: >>>Sorry, I can't quote any numbers or hard facts, only my own opinion >>>picked up from hanging out on AVS and from shopping for a low end >>>LCD when my projector bulb popped a few months ago. >>> >>>But I can say that, at the low end, both Target's Olevia and >>>Walmart's Vizio newer models all seem to support clear QAM. I ended >>>up with a Vizio and can say it has no problems with it on Cox. And >>>I think Vizio is now something like the 2nd best selling LCD brand >>>now. >>> >>>Until the sparsity of 'hard facts' is corrected I'm going to stick >>>with my previous opinion that clear QAM support will become an >>>expected option in most sets going forward. And I also think >>>true2way has some momentum building. >>> >>>- Tom >> >>While clear QAM support may exist in many new receivers, what is it good for? >> >>Apparently you can see some broadcast re-transmissions, but >>presumably you could get them with an antenna. It is my understanding >>that virtually all digital cable content is encrypted... >> >>Is this what most people are finding? >> >>Regards >>Craig >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>FreeLists.org >> >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>unsubscribe in the subject line. >> > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.