Craig Birkmaier wrote: > Could you please explain what a full HDTV transmitter is? A station with transmitter facilties that can transmit a program stream up to and including 19.39 Mb/s, 1280 X 720 @ 60p or 1920 X 1080 at 60i. > Last time I checked, transmission was still analog, and near as I can > tell, it always will be. The fact that that an analog carrier is now > being used to deliver bits instead of analog waveforms is ALL that > has changed. the FACT that bits can represent ANYTHING, You keep repeating this, over time, as if this is any different from any other digital distribution medium. At the physical layer, ALL OF THEM consist of an analog process. Ethernet in all its many guises, FDDI, SONET, xDSL, any modulated RF delivery of bits such as 2G, 3G, Wi-Fi, WiMAX, ... Some physical layers might only deliver values of 0 or 1 with each symbol. But even for those, the specs describe those symbols as analog waveforms, where everything is strictly controlled. Amplitude, rise time, trailing edges, etc. By the way, baseband 10G Ethernet over copper uses a 4-level AM scheme. Interesting, eh? What could be more "analog"? > The reality remains unchanged. In the world of audio there are many > quality levels. The reality that the overall level of quality has > improved over the decades does not detract from the reality that > applications will migrate to the quality level they need and can > support economically. Exactly my point. With TV, until recently, we have been limited to the equivalent of 5 KHz AM radio. With HDTV, that NTSC limit is no longer imposed by the delivery medium. Even though some program material and some receiving equipment *might* be so limited. > Please project the point in time when any TV station will be losing > revenues because they are not delivering all of their content in HD. In the next decade, it looks like receivers capable of quality levels greater than NTSC or SD will become economically viable and ubiquitous. I think the current push to plasma and LCD sets will simultaneously introduce sets that are not limited to 480i, and that's when people will start gravitating to sources with better signals. Given the option, that's what they'll use. Just like tuning in the FM station rather than the AM simulcast. There will also be cases where consumers will be more likely to choose the better quality even when content is different. For example, while aimlessly channel surfing, as they do now, people won't linger on a fuzzy image if the next station has a nice sharp picture. So it's predictable that people without a strong preference will choose the higher quality program and then possibly sticl with it. > For that matter, please project when commercial stations will lose > money if they don't turn off their NTSC transmitters in favor of > their DTV transmitters. Commercial stations will lose money with NTSC transmitters because they need to keep paying those electric bills and also because analog transmissions sometimes prevent the digital from going full power, or otherwise compromise the DTV streams. With the mandate in effect, as new TVs are bought (with the better ATSC front ends and digital cable tuners), people will migrate off the NTSC distribution media. So retaining analog could hurt revenues in the sense that the DTV signal might be harder to receive. > As i indicated in the previous message, > most of this content has been acquired at what we consider to be HD > quality levels for several decades. I agree. Even I Love Lucy reruns can be transmitted at quality levels above NTSC (or B&W TV, which isn't really NTSC). Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.