I stand corrected. I should have said -- indeed, I thought I said -- that they don't use this power very often, and seldom heavily. It has gotten very much easier to get type approval of receivers and transmitters over the year, including self certification of compliance with the rules replacing FCC lab testing. You provide one example (approved by the courts), CALEA is another, plus Computer II's RJ-11 & 45 jacks, and lest we forget, adding 17 channels to CB radios, but reducing the power output of future models. People who harbor even the slimmest doubt that the FCC will prevail in court on these rules should read the various court rulings in those matters. They have essentially COMPLETE authority: but not to violate free speech rights (that argument was used in the CB case; but the court wisely held that the collective free speech rights of citizens in the citizens band overcame the free speech rights of those who wanted 5 watt power output. John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Shutt Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:39 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: FCC Takes Flak Over Flag John, ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxx> > You are wrong, but only to a point. The FCC has the authority to say what > kind of receiver you can or cannot build. Period. > > However, they've never used it, and are unlikely to, since it will deter > innovation. The FCC most certainly has used their authority over what type of receiver a manufacturer can sell in the United States. Try finding a scanner that is able to receive the AMPS frequencies. Note that the language below describing how a scanner can and cannot be built is not terribly different from the Broadcast Flag rules that dictate how a receiver must protect the decrypted data stream internally. Here is an excerpt: 47CFR15.121: http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfrhtml_00/Title_47/47cfr15_00.html § 15.121 Scanning receivers and frequency converters used with scanning receivers. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, scanning receivers and frequency converters designed or marketed for use with scanning receivers, shall: (1) Be incapable of operating (tuning), or readily being altered by the user to operate, within the frequency bands allocated to the Cellular Radiotelephone Service in part 22 of this chapter (cellular telephone bands). Scanning receivers capable of "readily being altered by the user" include, but are not limited to, those for which the ability to receive transmissions in the cellular telephone bands can be added by clipping the leads of, or installing, a simple component such as a diode, resistor or jumper wire; replacing a plug-in semiconductor chip; or programming a semiconductor chip using special access codes or an external device, such as a personal computer. Scanning receivers, and frequency converters designed for use with scanning receivers, also shall be incapable of converting digital cellular communication transmissions to analog voice audio. (2) Be designed so that the tuning, control and filtering circuitry is inaccessible. The design must be such that any attempts to modify the equipment to receive transmissions from the Cellular Radiotelephone Service likely will render the receiver inoperable. (b) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, scanning receivers shall reject any signals from the Cellular Radiotelephone Service frequency bands that are 38 dB or lower based upon a 12 dB SINAD measurement, which is considered the threshold where a signal can be clearly discerned from any interference that may be present. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.