Mark Schubin wrote: >> The price delta caused by built-in receivers is no longer >> noticeable. > > I disagree. While the delta might be invisible on > thousand-dollar sets, I no longer see any $150 27-inch TV > sets advertised. There is ONE sub-$200 integrated set I've > seen (and it's $199.99). There used to be sub-$100 25-inch > sets advertised regularly. > > The delta has become apparent in the 25-inch-to-35-inch > range. When the "tuner mandate" kicks in for sub-25-inch > sets, we'll REALLY see a delta. Do you think that integrated > 13-inch TVs will sell for $50 as the analog models currently > do? Good point. On the small sets, below 25", I have no info, because they are never integrated sets. But I've noticed a progressive price increase from LCDs of 13" on up that seems unaffected by the ATSC receiver, which in practice kicks in at 26" and above. 15" LCDs go for about $300 to $400, always 4:3. (Monitor) 17" LCDs go for about $600 to $650 when they are 16:9. (Monitor) 20" go for $400 to $600, almost always 4:3. (Monitor) 26" or 27" go for $700 to $800, always 16:9. (Integrated) 32" go for about $1000 to $1200, always 16:9. (Integrated) So I agree that the data on small sets is not in yet, and I'm not looking at CRTs at all. What I see in stores today is a price increase that seems only to be a function of size and features (e.g. built-in DVD player). It's likely that the ATSC receiver will make its presence more obvious in the cheapest sets. > The FCC staff posited a "natural" analog cutoff date of > 2032 based on all TVs having DTT-reception capability in > 2007 and a 25-year replacement time period. Frankly, I don't understand how the FCC expects this to work. The "tuner mandate" by itself can't make people update fast enough, and a sudden shutoff of analog will leave the majority high and dry. The only way I see this working is a progressive shutoff of analog stations, which will encourage consumers to gradually do whatever they need to do (buy new sets, STBs, or go to cable). Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.