Cliff Benham wrote: >> There are some good DVD recorders now for sale, with >> built-in ATSC receivers. > > Are these *real* HD DVD recorders or do their built in > receivers decimate the HD program down to 480i to record it? Not HD. For now, they are SDTV recorders, but they do have progressive HDMI outputs. As well as component, etc. Still, it took forever to get this far. These started appearing about March this year, on schedule. I don't remember the exact date. Philips, LG, Panasonic, maybe some others too. Decent prices. Certainly better image quality than any VCR, even S-VHS. (Unless you record at the 8 hour setting.) Bert _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.