Check out this seemingly magical new VHF/UHF antenna. RCA Model ANT1150F. Appears to be a flat sheet, maybe 12" square, and it beats out all the competition. They make this amplified version, and a passive one too. Looks like $40 for the passive one, $70 for the amplified one. http://www.shopvoxx.com/product/rca-ultra-thin-indoor-hdtv-antenna-amplified Here are some consumer comments. http://www.amazon.com/RCA-ANT1050F-Ultra-Slim-Profile-Enhanced-Reception-Black/product-reviews/B001GGAIGI It appears to really work, even for low VHF, and at decently long range too. Supposedly 60 miles, for the amplified one. Maybe the renewed interst in OTA reception keeps these innovations coming. I'm not sure how this small antenna can work as well as many seem to claim? Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.