Dale Kelly wrote: >> And they (ATSC) fully support 60 Hz and progressive modes. > > Yes, they did, and yet they (Sony, CBS et al) also insisted, and > prevailed, that interlace be the foundation of the standard. > Which Craig, who was also there in the early days, can confirm. Sure. Because Sony, for one, was able to market HDTV cameras right away, if interlace was part of the standard. And the first HDTVs on the market were interlaced CRTs. So it made sense initially. Now, the 59.94 fps, 23.97 fps, and the interlace portions of ATSC, can become irrelevant and unused, *if and when* the "people that matter," i.e. content owners and broadcasters, decide the time is right. For example, channels like RTV probably prefer to have the 480i 59.94 option, for transmitting old TV programs directly from videotape? (Whatever, it's not my call.) The equipment manufacturers will quickly phase out those settings, when they see there's no demand. Let me use IEEE 802.3 (Ethernet) as a non-broadcast example of this same phenomenon. 802.3 supports fat and thin 50 ohm coaxial daisy-chain modes (10BASE5 and 10BASE2), a 75 ohm splitter topology (10BROAD-36), and a passive optical star topology (10BASE-FB). In the early days, these were in demand. These days, you can't buy any of them, except maybe on ebay. Because operators have upgraded their networks to different Ethernet modes, and these older schemes have become irrelevant. Mind you, newer LAN standards, that never supported those modes, emerged, like IEEE 802.5 (token ring), 802.12 (100VG-anylan), and ANSI X3T9.5 (FDDI). But guess what? They all failed. The survivor is 802.3. Surprise! What Craig wants is for the entire ATSC standard to be replaced, in the hopes that the new standard wouldn't even offer the option of these legacy modes. But what's the point? To force though one's age-old agenda, in spite of what the actual stakeholders want or need? There are many options in IEEE and IETF standards that have gone into disuse, over the years, not because they didn't appeal to a few individuals, but because the marketplace decided they were no longer useful. Same should be allowed to happen with interlace and weird field rates in ATSC, IMO. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.