[opendtv] Re: Netflix hits record high on subscriber surge | Fox Business
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 11:30:58 -0400
On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Manfredi, Albert E
<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is one of those many times when I don't see what you continue to miss,
Craig, but you stubbornly do continue. "Add-on tiers" means you need to be
paying the TV service to get Netflix.
Nope. You pay Netflix, just as you do if you buy it via the Internet. Actually
YOU ARE buying it via the Internet. All that the MVPD is doing is adding the
ability to access OTT services via their STBs. I do not know if there is any
"consideration" exchanged between Netflix and the MVPD.
And yes, you can pay the MVPD for premium add on tiers like HBO and ShowTime.
Or you can subscribe to them as OTT services like Netflix. In either case, HBO
gets most of the money; they still work with the MVPDs, as they put a great
deal of effort into promoting these premium tiers.
Probably for the basic bundle at the very least, or extended basic, or
whatever the local monopoly decides you need, to get access to Netflix.
Keep guessing. You clearly don't know.
You need triple play, for example, to get Netflix. If instead Netflix is
available independently, over the neutral broadband tier, then the customer
doesn't need to be subscribed to the TV bundles of any kind. Like me. Double
play only, and still I can get Netflix. Get it now?
Your still grasping at straws.
Netflix IS available independently. All you need is a decent ISP service. That
is exactly how I will switch from the Cox MVPD bundle to DirecTV Now, delivered
over Cox broadband. And it is similar to what I will do, switching from Cox
VOIP service to Magic Jack.
Is it hard to understand that these local monopolies, given half a chance,
would want to block any *alternative* options the customers have, to get this
material, and only allow the one option that gives them the best profits?
YES.
People already hate them. They are not that stupid. They will still be getting
about $80/mo from me so I can switch to the alternatives I listed above. And
they will still play a role hosting edge servers for the OTT services; they may
even cut deals to insert local commercials into some of these services.
And is it hard to understand that they could just as easily carry this over
to more than just TV, given half a chance?
Not exactly sure what you are saying, but I'll take a stab at it.
They already carry all of this over more than just TV. The Cox Contour box has
an accompanying App that allows tablets and phones to access IP streams using
h.264 encoding over the users WiFI network.
Cox is running commercials now promoting the fact that you can download a PPV
movie to your mobile devices for viewing at any time. This is directly
competitive with both Apple's iTunes and Amazon's Price Video services.
And then there is TV Everywhere, that allows subscribers to access most of the
networks they are paying for via ANY ISP service. Not just the live streams,
but vast libraries of VOD programs.
GET IT NOW? The MVPDs are competing with the OTT services, which they may be
enabling via ISP service. They are not going to block them.
By the way, did you read the article Monty posted, where Verizon is
practicing at how to throttle streaming services like Netflix, even now? THis
is practice, for when Chairman Pai does their bidding, and abolishes the
neutrality mandate. Did you read how the stream was slowed down to 600 kb/s?
Yes. It was a technology trial. But throttling via cellular data services is
not a Net neutrality violation under Title II. It is a necessity based on the
need to balance their networks when there is congestion.
And then there is the question of how much bandwidth to assign to a mobile
device. Do you really need 1440P on a cellphone? Most OTT services to cell
phones are 360P or 480P.
Perhaps you should withhold your criticism until Verizon announces what they
were testing, and how it may impact the quality of OTT streams that use their
wireless networks.
Wow, this again. I thought you had finally understood, but I guess not. Of
course that's what they want, of course that's what Chairman Pai thinks he
can force us to submit to, but no one except you and he are about to take
this! You still don't understand what a neutral Internet broadband tier is,
evidently.
No, Pai is not asking us to submit to anything. You still do not understand
that the fundamental principles of Net Neutrality were being observed before
the Title II order. And they they will still be observed AFTER the FCC let's go
and allows the marketplace to work.
With neutral Internet broadband service, the customer has choices beyond what
the special interest "wants him to do." I've never understood Craig's
eagerness to do what his MVPD "wants." Truly weird.
With heavy handed regulation, the FCC has limited customer choices for a
CENTURY.
With Title II the FCC started down the same path with the Internet. Why do you
believe they will behave any different this time if Title II regulation is
allowed to continue?
Regards
Craig
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