Bestbuy website shows them available in only about one store out of three throughout San Diego, Escondido, Orange County and Los Angeles.....they are there, but you have to search them out... CircuitCity website shows them available at maybe half the stores in the several S.D. and L.A. zipcodes I checked.... Of course, there should be a newer, cheaper version available "any day now".... holl_ands ========================== "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: John Shutt wrote: > The only 'converter boxes' I can find for sale are DVD recorders > with built in ATSC tuners. How about the Samsung STB? Anything with composite, S-video, and component outputs qualifies, in my book. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0104000&type=category http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categorylist.do?catOid=-15607&N=20012866+ 20015607&c=1 (bottom of page) They are actually available in stores, even. Bert --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!