While I've used various HDPC cards and HDTV's for some years but this past weekend I played with my first low priced converter box. I visited my mom for Easter. During the winter season she lives off in the boonies in central Florida, away from most everything. She has Dish TV but uses a small second TV with a whip antenna to get a somewhat snowy picture on one channel in the bedroom. Apparently on impulse and without coupon she had purchased one of the low priced converter boxes for this. When I arrived I found I was in charge of installing it. ;-) Predictably it got no channels. She was not interested in hooking it up to the (dead) rotor antenna on about a 35 foot tower that my dad used to use before the satellite dish. She was also not interested in running a cable thru the wall where the E* box was exactly on the other side in the living room. She just said she could return the box, and would. I don't blame this on ATSC, or poor converter boxes, and I don't know how typical this scenario was. But as my only attempt to set up a converter box for a older family member I thought it was an interesting anecdote. - Tom ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.