why would Q's operation affect reception of XETV/Fox? They're on 23 for good -- they were my first transport stream capture last week. I'd say that the terrain would have more of an effect than an operation 30 channels away. Since the XHUPN build is internationally notified, changing channels would be an extreme hassle, due to the notification and publication requirements. It's not unheard of for such things to take three years; the parties usually only meet once each year, in August. I beg to differ about the public notice situation. The Department of State (Bureau of International Communications BICI) and the FCC publish public notices about international coordination. They may not have posted them on a telephone in your neighborhood. ISTR notices when the filings are sent to the opposite country, and after the approval/rejection. Just a few minutes ago, on another matter, I quickly found a dismissed application on the FCC web site that was denied due to mexican objections. Approvals get the same treatment as to notice. Why do you use the callsign suffixes of -DT for Mexican stations? What we call DTT (digital terrestrial television) is called TTD (television terrestre digital), so it'd be more likely that the suffix would be -TD. But, the Mexican practice is to give different callsigns to co-owned am and fms (if there are co-owned tv/radios, they're not in this zone. The SCT (Secretariat de Communicaciones y Transporte) www.sct.gob.mx. And, let us not impute that short_name in PSIP needs to be callsign. Did I ever mention here that XETV had to get specific permission to transmit PSIP on their then-experimental operation? John Willkie John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hollandsworth <holl_ands@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Oct 30, 2005 1:54 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: More on Media Flo CGC #654 has the link to the Experimental license (with thanks to Howard Fine): http://www.bext.com/_CGC/2004/cgc654.htm https://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=27881&license_seq=28096 Armed with the Callsign, I searched FCC's OET Experimental Licensing System database: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/els/ and located recent request to increase power from 30 KW to 50 KW for both Mt. San Miguel and Black Mountain locations: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=31014&license_seq=31332 WD2XLG is currently listed with 50 KW (peak) CH53 transmitters on both Mt San Miguel (most San Diego TV stations are here) and Black Mountain (a few miles from me). It also shows 60 Watt transceivers using CH59 from Mt Soledad (the other TV location) and CH 53/56 from two Qualcomm facilities (East end of Mira Mesa Blvd). Clearly they are in demo and test mode: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20050805-9999-1b5mediaflo.html ///////////////////////////////// So now I'm worried about Preamp overload from nearby Black Mtn. It would certainly complicate receiving XETV-DT (FOX) OTA from Tijuana for most of North SD County. Thanks a heap Qualcomm for messing up reception in SOCAL, with apparently no public notice. ////////////////////////////// The www.upn13sandiego.com FAQ still says XHUPN-DT plans to fire up on CH53....coming soon. I'm thinking that they might want to look for a channel below CH52....and might have to wait until they convert their existing CH49 analog station. Or they'll "co-exist" with Qualcomm on shared CH53, after all, most viewers (esp in S.D.) are on cable and Sat systems. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Here's the latest from Bob Gonsett's CGC Newsletter #711 on MediaFlo. It confirms Richard's points. Spectrum management along the border is always fun. It also tends to confirm my assessment (I am not at liberty to disclose where I heard this) that MediaFlo is just in demo mode. John Willkie MORE ON MEDIAFLO'S OPERATIONS IN SAN DIEGO An individual familiar with MediaFLO's operations in San Diego (CGC #710) reports that Black Mountain and San Miguel Mountain are both on the air for the purpose of broadcasting to cellphones (or the experimental phase thereof). San Miguel has reportedly been on the air since November a year ago, while Black Mountain was added a few weeks later according to the letter. Mount Harvard, Denver and some Boston sites are said to be completed already. We are also told that MediaFLO is being looked at seriously in Europe. While MediaFLO is authorized to use a number of different TV channels in San Diego under an experimental grant, the company's continued use of Channel 53 is in jeopardy. XHUPN-DT on Cerro Bola is expected to light up on CH-53 soon, at which time MediaFLO will presumably be required to extinguish its operations on that channel. XHUPN is said to be internationally coordinated on CH-53. --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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