[opendtv] Re: Montana Governor Signs Order to Force Net Neutrality
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:18:26 -0500
On Jan 23, 2018, at 10:03 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Monty Solomon posted:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/22/technology/montana-net-neutrality.html
What's most annoying is to see this becoming a partisan issue. Like, the
extreme right is dragging the Republican Party with it, ever more brain dead,
unable to do more than parrot the stupid slogans of the extremist yahoos.
It became a highly partisan issue in 2014 when President Obama told FCC
Chairman Wheeler to invoke the Title II rules and start regulating ISPs, while
the real violators of net neutrality - the big edge services that supported the
President - were given a free pass and protection from competition.
It became a highly partisan issue when in 2014 John Oliver appealed to
Millennials to swamp the FCC with irrelevant comments:
“We need you to get out and, for once in your lives, focus your
indiscriminate rage in a useful direction,” Oliver said. “Seize your moment
my lovely trolls, turn on caps lock, and fly my pretties, fly, fly!”
And it will continue to be a partisan issue, likely being a major component of
the Democrats efforts to take control of Congress in the 2018 midterms.
For every right wing yahoo, there are a dozen left wing yahoos who will gladly
play this game...
"Broadband providers say they will have difficulty following different state
laws related to net neutrality."
So far, that complaint is without basis.
How absurd. The Internet and cellular communications do not live within state
lines. It is OBVIOUS that this is a prime example of Interstate commerce, over
which Federal regulators have clear authority.
But it could potentially be a problem. So far, the only neutrality
stipulations have been those that already apply. No blocking, no throttling,
no "fast lanes." And these must continue to apply, to local ISPs.
Sorry Bert. No Blocking is appropriate unless the blocking involves illegal
activities.
No throttling is meaningless in a world where we buy broadband based on
performance and monthly data caps. Will this always be the case?
No. Someday broadband performance will easily exceed the basic requirements for
bandwidth intensive applications like streaming video, gaming, software updates
and whatever the Next Big Thing requires. This is already the case for fixed
broadband like my Cox service that just tested at 181 Mbps down and 10.2 Mbps
up. But cellular data - aspects of which were not covered by the 2015 rules,
will still have some performance limits and restrictive caps, perhaps for
another 5-10 years, when 5G is fully deployed.
ANd the internet cannot function as it does today without fast lanes. This rule
was never supportable - it was a partisan issue from day one. And it was a
partisan issue at the Wheeler FCC...
Until Trump won the Presidency.
In fact, ISPs seem to be able to throttle certain types of streams anyway,
such as videos to smartphones, and get away with it. So if done fairly, for
good technical reasons, not to favor one particular web site, apparently
there's more flexibility than the yahoos like to pretend.
Thank you for acknowledging reality. Taken a step further, there is no reason
why we should not allow ISPs of any stripe to work with bandwidth intensive
edge services to provide the infrastructure needed to assure the QOS needed for
streaming video. This is ALREADY reality via the CDNs and co-located edge
servers that make high quality streaming a reality.
If you prefer, the historic Internet protocols were not capable of delivering
services that require low latency and high QOS.
Would you like to go back to the Internet of the last century Bert?
Do you still have dial up modem?
I don't even know why this corrupt FCC thinks the states have no say. It's
not like broadband non-neutrality is stipulated in the Constitution. It's
quite refreshing, on the other hand, to see that states can cancel out the
orders of crooks in the federal government, in egregious cases like this.
Some things are simply beyond the pale. It's *astonishing* that Chairman Pai
was unable to see this coming. It's even more incredible that he had the gall
to call his idea "restoring Internet freedoms," almost as if words have no
meaning. A real piece of work.
Given the reality that the previous administration stretched executive power
well beyond its Constitutional limits, and this administration is focused on
undoing the lawlessness, and decades of partisan establishment cronyism, it is
astonishing that you were unable to see this coming...
Regards
Craig
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