Al Limberg wrote: > U. S. Pat. No.6,166,667 issued 26 December 2000 and > owned by Samsung Electronics has an interesting claim 1 > that reads as follows. > > "A channel encoding method in a mobile communication > system, comprising the steps of: selecting one of a > convolutional encoding scheme and turbo encoding scheme > according to a service type of data to be transmitted; encoding > the data to be transmitted utilizing said selected encoding > scheme; and transmitting the encoded symbols on a > transmission channel." To me, that sounds an awful lot like ideas that morphed into part of A-VSB. A-VSB, in two of its modes, uses turbo coding layered over the convolutional trellis code. In that patent, it sounded like they wanted instead to select either turbo coding or the trellis code. But I prefer working on the standard 8T-VSB symbol stream, as you mentioned previously. The standard stream already contains two well-known 2-VSB symbol sequences -- the training sequence and the segment sync sequences -- that can be used to obtain the absolute amplitude levels of the symbols. And 8T-VSB already transmits a well-randomized and high rate of symbols, which generates a very flat spectrum very quickly. This should allow for very rapid dynamic equalizer response to dynamic fading. The previous Sinclair testing and NAB demo of mobile 2-VSB, which contained no convolutional FEC at all apparently, would have been far more successful if only they had used a diversity antenna. The biggest flaw in reception was, reportedly, when the van stopped at traffic lights. And moving the van just a few inches or feet restored reception. So the benefit of a diversity antenna is clear. It just seems to me that very credible mobile 8T-VSB should be achievable without violating any laws of the universe. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.