[opendtv] Re: Mag-lev

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:24:17 -0500

The solution my dad always wanted was to put the maglev's in u shaped tunnels and operate them like roller coasters. They would gradually fall down the tunnel and then coast mostly up the other side, slowing as they arrived. Motors would only be used to compensate for friction or differences in altitude.

Kind of like a huge pneumatic mail system.

- Tom

John Willkie wrote:
There's a mag-lev "proposal" floating around california political circles for (take your 
pick) SD->LA->Riverside->Las Vegas.  It's running against several other proposals that 
affect certain portions of the idealized trackbed.

IIRC, it's somewhere around $1 billion a mile, or about 10x the per-mile cost of a NEW 16 lane freeway.

There are many sticking issues, not the least of which is the lack of horizontal 
space (even for current rail needs) in the Camp Pendleton->Mission Viejo 
portion, let alone the right of way needed for mag-lev and rail.

The major proponent is a local san diego real estate investor who bought the 
rights from the proponent who appeared at transit board hearings that I covered 
more than two decades ago.  It has about a zero chance of getting government 
funding.

Whatever advantage Mag-lev has in speed, it loses with the significant 
costs/electrical surge each time a train starts up and stops at a station.  
I've heard flywheels as a work-around, but that just adds other weight/safety 
issues.

Wasn't there a fatal crash of a mag-lev in the last few weeks.  Something about two 
trains on the same track.  As complicated as things get, it's suprising how often issues 
arise that were "solved" more than 100 years ago.

John Willkie, a grandson of an Illinois Central railroad engineer with the same 
name.


-----Original Message-----

From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Oct 30, 2006 12:15 PM
To: Open DTV Forum <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [opendtv] Mag-lev

As long as it was brought up, there's a commercial mag-lev system from Shanghai's Pudong airport to the Longyang Road metro station. It has been operating for almost three years. The trip takes about seven minutes at a top speed of about 270 MPH (during a test it went about 313 MPH) and costs about $5 for ticketed air passengers. The same trip by road took me about 45 minutes in the middle of the night with no traffic. I note that in "An Inconvenient Truth" Al Gore is shown making the trip in a chauffered limo rather than on the train.

The line is being extended to the Shanghai South railway station, the Expo 2010 site, and the Hongqiao airport.

TTFN,
Mark



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