[opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies
- From: John Willkie <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:19:38 -0400 (EDT)
Or, sometimes you just have to slap the bastard down.
However, I will let you play with bert. As Adam, I am done.
Funny that you don't address the fool and his foolishness, but then ...
John Willkie, who is toned down
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Jun 29, 2008 10:20 PM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies
>
>When you go into pit bull mode like this you are merely acting as a
>troll. I doubt you will either discredit Bert or drive him from the
>list with these tactics but it does make things somewhat less pleasant
>here.
>
>Maybe we could tone it down a bit.
>
>- Tom
>
>John Willkie wrote:
>> what a fool. Using a (not merely) negative [actually a declining to address
>> somthing relating to one system for delivering media] to ASSert a positive
>> relating to a totally different system for delivering media.
>>
>> "created out of thin air."
>>
>> Here's his legal 'doctrine.' I WANT! I WANT! I WANT! So, there IS A LAW.
>> Nothing else, and EVERY LEGAL PRECEDENT either silent or to the contrary.
>>
>> What a pearl.
>>
>> I'm sure that the same type of 'legal' analysis was used by others at his
>> employer to:
>>
>> 1) Charge $600 to the government for an off-the-shelf crescent wrench
>> 2) Charge $900 to the government for an almost-off-the-shelf toilet seat
>> cover
>> 3) Bribe several Navy official (directly using Boeing funds) through one
>> Melvin Paisley
>> 4) Bribe (by hiring, despite a non-disclosure agreement) a Northrup-Grumman
>> employee, with a bonus when he 'brought along' confidential cost-estimate
>> documents from Northrup-Grumman that Boeing OFFICIALs then used to 'bid-rig'
>> their competing bid to the government
>> 5) Agreeing to hire Colleen Druyan from her Air Force position (secretly)
>> effectively on the proposition that she throw the Air Force replacement
>> tanker contract to Boeing.
>> 6) Harvey Stonecipher (married) having an affair with a female subordinate
>> (also married) while spending company funds and company time on executing
>> and hiding the affair.
>>
>> Bert obviously, and his company, also obviously, were born without original
>> sin. They are incarnately inerrable. When others go to jail, it was the
>> fault of the errant, not them.
>>
>> Charlemange lives! The devine right of kings, indeed.
>>
>> I guess I will have to find more misdeeds of Boeing officials to pepper
>> Bert's responses on this thread. Also, note that I'm cc'ing
>> abuse@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> John Willkie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Albert Manfredi <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Jun 29, 2008 8:39 PM
>>> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Goldberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> FCC 00-341 says NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING about this.
>>> We disagree. By refusing to make a decision, the FCC gives MVPDs carte
>>> blanche wrt copy protection, which OTA broadcasters do not have. In effect,
>>> that is taking a stand.
>>>
>>> I'll indulge in some of the same "logical" thinking we see on here from
>>> [expletive deleted].
>>>
>>> If a book author wants to display his book in my house, I am well within my
>>> rights to negotiate my terms with him. As in, "sure, go ahead and display
>>> it, but only IF YOU AGREE to let me quote from it, make photocopies of
>>> certain sections for my own use, or for other uses I specify ahead of time.
>>>
>>> That is what the US Govt is doing here, ON OUR BEHALF. It is saying to
>>> content owners and to broadcasters, "If you guys want to air this content
>>> over the RF spectrum owned by the public, and which broadcasters are
>>> allotted on condition of following certain rules, THEN we, the people, are
>>> going to negotiate the terms.
>>>
>>> "Our terms are [Betamax case, 17 USC 1201]. If you don't like our terms, we
>>> agree that you own the content and have rights to it, so please take your
>>> content elsewhere for display."
>>>
>>> And more, we, the people, are saying to broadcasters that if they want to
>>> use the publically-owned TV RF spectrum, they have to transmit at least one
>>> free and clear SDTV stream. Or take their business elsewhere.
>>>
>>> By the way, I think it is the tactic of the complete idiots and morons to
>>> try to silence opposing points of view through insults. Deep down,
>>> pathetic, self-loathing bullies and narcisists. No one worthy of respect,
>>> for sure. Surely, we can agree on that much?
>>>
>>> Bert
>>>
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