Dan Grimes wrote: > I would find it hard to believe that a series > of small transmissions would be less robust than > one large transmission both physically and > electronically. All of this can be calculated, Dan. In practice, to cover a market the size of most US TV markets, with small 100 W sticks as Bob Miller mentioned, would take a huge number of sticks. Assuming you want continuous coverage throughout the area. Mount them up high and the number is reduced. Increase the power and the number is reduced. In the Berlin example, they use either two or three (depending on channel) sticks, in a SFN, with power ranging from 10 KW to 120 KW, and these are tall. (This may be changing. Their site explaining this has gone dark.) The 120 KW example, Ch 44, has a second tall stick of 50 KW in a SFN. Their coverage goes out to about 57 miles, with rooftop receiver antennas. At less than 2 b/s/Hz, which they dialed in to make the SFN work well. To me, the power and reach is about the same ballpark as what we need here. We would want over 60 miles of range often, and, with 8-VSB, we have to use 3.3 b/s/Hz. Paris has the big stick on the Eiffel Tower, which is on the west side of town, and then three much smaller transmitters to the N, E, and S, in a SFN. However, a mere 30 miles away, there's another large stick, on a different set of frequencies, because that's too far to be included in the Paris SFN, and the Paris signal is getting too weak by then. So unless you go to the trouble of synchronizing transmitters, you need translators. > But when looking at spectral efficiency, aren't > the problems the same, just on a smaller scale? Exactly. See above the Paris example. One could in principle design very large SFNs, but that introduces complexities that no TV system has so far wanted to tackle. Besides, in the US anyway, markets are kept separate. Broadcasters want their individual stations to be unique, unlike most European networks, where transmitters are mere translators in a network. In terms of spectral efficiency, SFNs help because all your repeaters can be set to the same frequency. The reality is, no one wants to create huge SFNs, for technical reasons. So the real value of the SFN becomes ease of reception within a confined area. And then often more difficult reception far away. And you're still using translators to extend coverage, which means you have NOT gained any spectral efficiency. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.