[opendtv] Re: Let them eat cake (and ATSC while they're at it)
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:47:18 -0700
Really? Are you sure this hyped rebirth is not actually a birth?
Commercial television -- except for the meager offerings in the UK -- are
relatively new to Europe.
John Willkie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:12 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Let them eat cake (and ATSC while they're at it)
> Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
>
> >Bob Miller wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>But he does express the silent opinion of many in
> >>Congress and the FCC that OTA is essentially dead.
> >>Or was this what was planned all along?
> >>
> >>I don't see how they are going to explain the
> >>rebirth of OTA worldwide using COFDM while they try
> >>to shut it down in the US.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Bob, you're making a far bigger deal of the modulation aspects than they
are due. There is none of the rebirth you're alluding to going on, even
> >in Europe.
> >
> Couldn't disagree with you more. There is a rebirth of OTA in Europe and
> every day that goes by will prove this more.
>
> >Matter of fact, the lower power of Euro TV, especially in countries like
the UK, France, and Italy, where 10s of KW are all you're going to get
> >for UHF TV, creates a whole business segment that we don't have here.
Antenna installers. A real, viable business segment. Because OTA is popular
enough but yet tricky to receive due to the low output of the transmitters.
> >
> >
> 8-VSB with current receivers needs antennas at any power level. The fact
> that we don't have a viable antenna installer business only attest to
> the failure of 8-VSB in the US. Your list includes France which only
> started OTA DTV a few weeks ago so I don't know how you include them.
> Italy should already have all the antennas they will ever need from the
> looks of their skylines. And the UK has an average transmitter power of
> one kW so it is understood there though I have had emails discussions
> where people get good reception with indoor antennas at 20 miles from
> such transmitters. We did on Coney Island and points east from NJ 100
> Watt transmitter at 400 ft while mobile.
>
> >In Italy, it's become a "green" thing. My sister can no longer receive
OTA of most UHF channels via rabbit ears because all but RAI 1, 2, and 3
reduced power. So now, in her condo, they are debating whether to install a
central antenna system. And yet they are only a few miles from the repeaters
that feed the North part of Rome.
> >
> >(Interstingly enough, only 2 of 20 apartments use OTA. Sound familiar?)
> >
> >
> Yet they are considering a central antenna. Sounds like a few more may
> take up TV or DTV now that they have approved funding for an additional
> 1.4 million receivers at a subsidy of 70 Euros. They have 21 million
> households so I think they are doing OK with OTA digital.
>
> France will begin a subscription service using MPEG4 and COFDM. This one
> I am very interested in. They may offer HD on it and therefore not set
> it up for mobile but even with HD it will be a direct comparison between
> the US and France using what we should be using.
>
> Bob Miller
>
> >That Humax receiver sounds promising too, then? I think that's the one
that doesn't support any sort of timed operation. Too bad.
> >
> >Bert
> >
> >
> >
> >
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