----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> > Yes indeed. That's the point I have been trying to make > to Mr. Shutt, evidently with no success. A PBS affiliate in Lansing, Michigan can magically make receivers appear where Mr. Miller cannot? Interesting. Solict $300 pledges to give away $250 STBs that don't exist? Interesting. > I, for one, applaud your efforts in this regard. Others > prefer to sit back and just blame the standard. The standard is to blame if after over 6 years a working receiver cannot be built. > As to mobility. Frank Eory tested a 1st gen Motorola at > speeds up to 65 mph, IIRC. Where is it? Let's see it in a product? Oh sorry, PBS has to commission a receiver to be given away as pledge premiums first. >And there was that 2-VSB > mobile test in Las Vegas a couple of years ago, with > zero zip convolutional FEC. That's the one where Kon > showed that a small movement of the van, when the van > was stationary in a deep signal null, was enough to > restore the signal. Diversity antennas would have done > the same thing, without moving the van. That Linz 2-VSB demonstration had a total bit payload of 9 Mbps. That would make Dr. McDonald very happy. http://bg.broadcastengineering.com/ar/broadcasting_microsoft_linx_electronics/ "In Las Vegas, KFBT-DT (on Channel 29's)digital facility will transmit a multiplexed 6 Mbps HDTV (720p) and signal a "live" 1.5 Mb/s SDTV (encoded with TANDBERG hardware) of the KFBT on-air product. According to those close to the demonstration, the 2-VSB datastream will have a total payload of 9 Mbps." COFDM and DVB-T could duplicate LINX's feat in 1999, with a much higher payload. Dream on. >And the tradeoff > between lower modulation modes, like 2-VSB, and higher > modes with greater convolutional FEC, like regular 8-VSB > or the even more extreme E-VSB approach, was never made. > Good use of the existing PN training sequence, coupled > with symmetric echo tolerance of the newer gen receivers, > should be just what the doctor ordered. COFDM and DVB-T works today. It worked in 1999. It is a worldwide standard with worldwide support. 8-VSB is behind the power curve and always will be. > Oh, and my agenda is for a DTT system that works and > offers reasonably good programming. If broadcasters are > happy to let their popular shows go elsewhere, I'm not > very sympathetic with lame excuses about modulation. How about lame excuses for not even viewing a web video, or taking someone up on an offer to loan you an 8-VSB receiver so you could have some first hand knowledge of what you are talking about. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.