THAT IS ALREADY IN PRACTICE WITH MYSELF AS I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY INTERNET TV PROVIDER WITH THOUSANDS OF CHANNELS AND LETS SAY SKYPE. COMPUTER DOES IT ALL AND FREE. MY INTERNET TV PROVIDER IS FREE OF CHARGE SO I DONT PAY NOTHING FOR VIEWING TV NETWORKS. I CAN EVEN MAKE MY OWN NETWORK JUST BY MAKING A WEB SITE AND PROGRAMMING VIDEOS TO AIR 24/7 (LOADING CONTENT) AND YOU CAN FOR A SMALL FEE. Branislav Lucic BranislavL@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: TLM <TLM@xxxxxxxxxx> To: opendtv <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:43 am Subject: [opendtv] Re: Last Mile Broadband HD Options An interesting side note - during WWII most of the German telephone infrastructure was destroyed. When it was rebuilt, it was done so in the way people who build BMWs, Porsches and Mercedes always do: World Class. From what I hear from my German friends, they have one of the best DSL systems on the planet. One conclusion you could draw from what you say below would be that with the right STB (say from Intel for example) I could pay my cable company to be only my broadband service provider (I think I pay ~$45/month for that, but as you mention there are other choices), with no TV channels at all, and get everything else off the Internet with a PVR included (instead of paying my cable company ~$15/month for PVR on top of the regular fee for my cable STB, ~$145/month all told). -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:39 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Last Mile Broadband HD Options Tom McMahon wrote: > Hi - what are the various broadband options these days for getting HD > over the InterNet into the Consumer Household? Both streaming and > download. You are talking technology rather than service, right? Because "HD" over the Internet is available over any of these options. Although it doesn't necessarily compare with OTA HD. 1. Cable modems. Cable companies converted their infrastructure to two-way, using a hybrid of fiber and coax, where the fiber part has been getting closer and closer to individual homes. Now fiber stretches into neighborhoods. 2. xDSL. Uses fiber to various locations in the core telco network, getting closer and closer to individual homes. The fastest version deployed in the US I think goes to 25 Mb/s down. In principle, xDSL can extend to just beyond 50 Mb/s down, but the copper cable length becomes limited to 300 meters. 3. FiOS. It is very similar in concept to #1, but the fiber has been extended to the outside wall of each house. And the coax part is only inside the house. So it's hybrid fiber coax taken to the extreme, if you will. If you get broadband from a cable TV company, they will hook you up with a cable modem. If you get generic broadband from a telco, you xDSL. If you get AT&T U-verse TV service, you also get xDSL. If you get Verizon TV, you get FiOS. You can also get FiOS without any TV channels. Just telephone and broadband. But Verizon doesn't want to deploy that much fiber all over the US, so they are only planning for 20 percent coverage and are making deals with cable companies, for the rest of their customers. Weird. In Europe, xDSL is the most popular broadband link technology. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.